On 27/05/2010, at 4:34 AM, Justin Carter wrote: > Adobe could solve > by getting their (existing) CF educational materials into colleges and > universities.
This is easy to say, and much more complex in reality. Firstly I would be worried about a University that listened to vendors to decide what languages they were going to use to teach their students computer science and basic programming - and CF is not the language for this. Luckily I didn't come across one when I was at Macromedia trying to do this with CF. TAFEs have a different problem. Teaching specific technologies is part of their brief. There is some limited curriculum material available (based on the commercial courses) for vocational colleges to teach using the Adobe products, but what TAFEs need are teachers with the skills to teach these languages. For instance Crows Nest TAFE used to teach ColdFusion because they had someone there (I think Warren Finch?) who could. Adobe can't magic these people into being - they have to come from the community. If you're a contractor or a full timer looking to moonlight as an evening instructor, have you considered approaching your local TAFE or community college and offering to run a web development course? Emma Jones (nee Steer, some of you may remember her as the Canberra Macromedia UG manager for several years) has been having some success with Flash and the local TAFEs around Wangaratta. Maybe someone with some pedagogical bent could start a wiki for lesson plans and extra course material and ideas for people who wanted to get into this. > If the reason isn't due to a lack of available CF > developers then it's really something that is out of our hands as a > community (I think?) No, it's definitely something the community can do something about (if it really wants to) > Adobe either needs to get Evangelists or Sales > people talking to more CEO's/CIO's > or to spend some cash in relevant > publications to get the ColdFusion brand out there again. This is not how CEOs and CIOs make decisions, and Adobe don't put ads in papers because they know they don't work - it's a great way to spend a marketing budget, but not a good way to get results. I know, I tried with Macromedia's money once and it was rather embarrassing. Having active user groups and big conferences makes a big difference. Our presence at events in the broader web community helps. It's constant cosmic background radiation to reassure people that we're around. Robin ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au www.rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.