Interestingly enough we had the man himself that made this decision at the Melbourne ColdFusion User Group tonight.
And he has valid reasons for moving on, the main one being that they already have a lot of .NET developers and have had trouble recruiting CF developers so made the decision to just have a single technology. I think this isn't such a bad decision, in that business. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au http://cfmldocs.com http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2010 9:52 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: JB-HI Moving to dotnet > TAFEs have a different problem. Teaching specific technologies is part of their brief. There is some limited curriculum material available (based on the commercial courses) for vocational colleges to teach using the Adobe products, but what TAFEs need are teachers with the skills to teach these languages. me me me. That's how I was brought, kicking and screaming, to CF - I had to teach it. I've been looking, Robin, but no TAFE's are looking for experienced and qualified CF teachers in my city. You hear of one? let me know, OK? > Adobe can't magic these people into being - they have to come from the community. If you're a contractor or a full timer looking to moonlight as an evening instructor, have you considered approaching your local TAFE or community college and offering to run a web development course? Emma Jones (nee Steer, some of you may remember her as the Canberra Macromedia UG manager for several years) has been having some success with Flash and the local TAFEs around Wangaratta. Maybe someone with some pedagogical bent could start a wiki for lesson plans and extra course material and ideas for people who wanted to get into this. I would have thought that a barometer to do that would be the strength of short courses delivering this. Brisbane North TAFE (my employer until earlier this year) has sewn up the TAFE short course scene with their Adult Community Education courses (over a weekend or so). But to be honest, they get more go from lead-lighting and wine appreciation than computer languages. It's a Micky-Mouse operation and practically anyone can offer something to them. If they reckon their cut is worthwhile, they might listen. The only other way courses could be delivered out of the TAFE system is either accredited (you get a qualification - CertIII,Cert IV, Dip) and CF would be one platform to learn on or non-accredited specialist short courses. Both delivered out of faculty, not third-party (you have teachers with tenure to consider here). FYI Brisbane Nth (Ithaca campus) has IMHO the best reputation for IT for all the Brisbane TAFE's. I've designed courses while at QANTM up to Diploma level (it's not hard if you know what you're doing) that incorporated CF. There is a real need to do pre-testing before admittance - an aptitude test. At QANTM any Diploma course, the hard break-even (class size/enrollments) was 12. 15 was a soft break-even that got you some cred to get resources. Class sizes of 20 or more guaranteed it would run next year. Two or more classes of 20 means they would look at a mid-year intake as well. I was never able to get those numbers so the course couldn't fly (and that was with 3 languages - CF, PHP and ASP.NET/C# - on two platforms - Linux and Win - with a decent section on Flash/Flex apps and a bit on video streaming). Half a dozen people sitting in a 3 day short-course delivered by a private training provider is as much as you can expect, methinks. You certainly couldn't do that every week for the instructor to pay their mortgage... my opinion only. No cents offered here. I've none left. barry.b -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
