On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, William K. Volkman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 16:16, Eugene Eric Kim wrote:
>> It would be worth actually testing this in a user study.
>> However, the fact that this question comes up at all (over and over
>> again) seems to be an indication of unnecessary complexity.
>
> I assert that it is really a fundamental lack of understanding of
> collections and multiple-membership that is a fault.  They don't
> understand why there are two actions so it seems redundant.  Is there
> some place where the "over and over again" question keeps coming up?
> Perhaps it should be part of the FAQ rather than attempting to fix a
> non-problem.

Sure, I'll buy that. And I also think that the software should do its
best to help the user understand these two distinctions, rather than
expecting them to have read a FAQ before they can safely delete (or
remove) an entry.

As I said before, there's an easy way to resolve this. Watch users
work, and see if they trip up over this.

>> As for adding pop-ups, I'm suggesting it be a conditional popup with a
>> default so that it's only one additional keystroke if you want to
>> remove from multiple collections.
>
> Pop-up dialogs disorient and confuse new users and annoy power users,
> eventually people just mindlessly click through them.  Read through the
> 15 years of users studies that have already been done on the antivirus
> and web browser pop-ups and see that adding the pop-ups actually made
> the users less secure because they get in a habit of clicking through
> them.  Look at the 5% of the people who liked Clippy, now questions from
> 5% of your users seems like a lot but it is nothing compared hatred
> incurred by the other 95% of the people.

Come on, now. Point me to the user study that says that _all_ pop-ups
hurt usability or are counter to expert usage, and I will happily shut
up.

I'm totally sensitive to your point. Believe it or not, I hate
superfluous pop-ups also. But discounting the very notion of them as
always hurting expert usage seems a bit extreme, wouldn't you agree?

=Eugene

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