Sometimes Cisco folks are a little too big for their britches. :->
The argument presented sounds a bit like the OSI model arguments we have
once in a while, 'eh?
Let's see - core, distribution, access. 85xx & 65xx, 5xxx&4xxx, 29xx and
35xx
That's the way Cisco defines it, so it must be true. :->
Chuck
PS what was the genesis of the conversation anyway? Were specific port and
bandwidth requirements discussed, or did someone just throw out the terms
"core" and "access", leaving some newly indoctrinated SE to apply what he
just learned in sales school?
-----Original Message-----
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Ellis
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:22 AM
To: nigel samuel; Cisco Group Study
Subject: Re: Pre-sales People
The pre-sales engineer's response was:
The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco...
-Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-sales People
> That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I
> basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on
equipment,
> but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some
> customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem
> was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment
> depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc.
>
> In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch.
> Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of
servers
> down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason
> for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always
> add another later??
>
> Nigel
>
> Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes
bids
> > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of
> space)?
> > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested
> (2)
> > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the
> > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing
an
> > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!!
> >
> > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done
> much
> > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more.
> >
> > any input is appreciated.
> >
> > thanks!
> > -Brad
> > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me
know!!!
> > lol
> >
> >
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