This thread did get a bit carried away. I believe I provided an adequate, if
minimal answer to the question. As one of the smart asses of the group, and
one prone to a bit of sarcasm myself, I still think that it is more than
fair for other folks - new folks and regulars - to point out that this is
indeed supposed to be a place where people can ask for help, information,
resources without belittlement.
Let me offer all folks new to the certification game some information on
protocols.
One can find a wealth of information at
http://www.radcom-inc.com/acad/acatoc.htm , including the World of protocols
book I referred to. Everything you didn't want to know about the contents of
those headers at all layers.
I would also like to ask - how many people, without looking at a chart
someplace, can define the contents of an IP header, a TCP header, a UDP
header. I mean bit for bit in order? I would guess that most of us have an
idea of the contents. Most of us know there are 20 bytes in both the TCP and
IP headers, and that the UDP header is 8 bytes 9 had to look it up. Was
thinking 10 ), but could tell all without referring to something.
This is the kind of depth that is not covered in CCNA or CCNP, and with all
due respect to the difficulty of the CCIE, I don't recall anything about
this in my reading and references there either.
It's ok to ask questions that will further your knowledge about routing,
routers, and how it all works. Honest.
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Jason
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: question on ip packet
There is absolutely no value whatsoever in this reply. Please stop reading
if you are expecting to find any thing of value in this message.
The only reason I'm replying is that I figure if I'm going to have to wade
through all this cow jokes and whathaveyou, I might as well add to it.
By the way, I'm a CCMC but I do not know what is inside milk. Is it white
color or can I get brown color and pink color milk from the cow or do I have
to feed them differently ? . I know this is a simple Q, but I know lots of
CCMC working in multi-million dollar milk farm who doesn't know how to
config a router or server and I figure I'm ahead of them in this game . NOW
if you are wondering how I get my CCMC, well, I know how to milk a Cow and
the Sybex book on CCMC never ask me to look at the color of the milk. I also
make use of the CCMC for Dummies book. I feel that that is a great book and
is just the right book for me.
(Certified Cow Milking Candidate)
"Luan Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Brian,
> My knowledge of tcp/ip is enough for me to configure routers/switches.
> I'm still learning. There is nothing wrong with a network engineer who
> holds a ccna cert. that doesn't know what's inside an ip packet. I have
> friends who are 20+ years old and are currently network engineers and work
> for multi-billion dollar companies but they still don't know how to milk a
> cow:). Cheers.
>
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>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Luan Kim wrote:
> >
> > > Can someone lighten me up as to what's inside an "ip packet"? Is
there a
> > > udp/tcp header in it? Is there a mac-address in it? Thanks for any
> > > input.
> >
> > You are a Network Engineer for a multi-million dollar company, hold a
> > CCNA, and are asking something trivial like whats in an IP packet? If
you
> > searched the web you would get that answer in a quick query. I am not
one
> > to flame, I just find it unreal that you could study for your CCNA and
not
> > come across what makes up an IP packet.........I even find it more mind
> > boggling that anyone could get their CCNA, have a job as a network
> > engineer, and not be with in 10 walking paces from a decent tcp/ip
> > reference that would have this in the first chapter.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ********************************************
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> > > Systems/Network Infrastructure Engineer *
> > > MP3.COM, INC. http://www.mp3.com *
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