CNXs can rattle off the IP, TCP, and UDP header contents no problem. &;-)
Priscilla
At 02:22 PM 8/18/00, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>This thread did get a bit carried away. I believe I provided an adequate, if
>minimal answer to the question. As one of the smart asses of the group, and
>one prone to a bit of sarcasm myself, I still think that it is more than
>fair for other folks - new folks and regulars - to point out that this is
>indeed supposed to be a place where people can ask for help, information,
>resources without belittlement.
>
>Let me offer all folks new to the certification game some information on
>protocols.
>
>One can find a wealth of information at
>http://www.radcom-inc.com/acad/acatoc.htm , including the World of protocols
>book I referred to. Everything you didn't want to know about the contents of
>those headers at all layers.
>
>I would also like to ask - how many people, without looking at a chart
>someplace, can define the contents of an IP header, a TCP header, a UDP
>header. I mean bit for bit in order? I would guess that most of us have an
>idea of the contents. Most of us know there are 20 bytes in both the TCP and
>IP headers, and that the UDP header is 8 bytes 9 had to look it up. Was
>thinking 10 ), but could tell all without referring to something.
>
>This is the kind of depth that is not covered in CCNA or CCNP, and with all
>due respect to the difficulty of the CCIE, I don't recall anything about
>this in my reading and references there either.
>
>It's ok to ask questions that will further your knowledge about routing,
>routers, and how it all works. Honest.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
>Jason
>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:07 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: question on ip packet
>
>There is absolutely no value whatsoever in this reply. Please stop reading
>if you are expecting to find any thing of value in this message.
>The only reason I'm replying is that I figure if I'm going to have to wade
>through all this cow jokes and whathaveyou, I might as well add to it.
>
>By the way, I'm a CCMC but I do not know what is inside milk. Is it white
>color or can I get brown color and pink color milk from the cow or do I have
>to feed them differently ? . I know this is a simple Q, but I know lots of
>CCMC working in multi-million dollar milk farm who doesn't know how to
>config a router or server and I figure I'm ahead of them in this game . NOW
>if you are wondering how I get my CCMC, well, I know how to milk a Cow and
>the Sybex book on CCMC never ask me to look at the color of the milk. I also
>make use of the CCMC for Dummies book. I feel that that is a great book and
>is just the right book for me.
>
> (Certified Cow Milking Candidate)
>
>"Luan Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Brian,
> > My knowledge of tcp/ip is enough for me to configure routers/switches.
> > I'm still learning. There is nothing wrong with a network engineer who
> > holds a ccna cert. that doesn't know what's inside an ip packet. I have
> > friends who are 20+ years old and are currently network engineers and work
> > for multi-billion dollar companies but they still don't know how to milk a
> > cow:). Cheers.
> >
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> >
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Luan Kim wrote:
> > >
> > > > Can someone lighten me up as to what's inside an "ip packet"? Is
>there a
> > > > udp/tcp header in it? Is there a mac-address in it? Thanks for any
> > > > input.
> > >
> > > You are a Network Engineer for a multi-million dollar company, hold a
> > > CCNA, and are asking something trivial like whats in an IP packet? If
>you
> > > searched the web you would get that answer in a quick query. I am not
>one
> > > to flame, I just find it unreal that you could study for your CCNA and
>not
> > > come across what makes up an IP packet.........I even find it more mind
> > > boggling that anyone could get their CCNA, have a job as a network
> > > engineer, and not be with in 10 walking paces from a decent tcp/ip
> > > reference that would have this in the first chapter.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ********************************************
> > > > Luan T. Kim, MCSE, CCNA *
> > > > Systems/Network Infrastructure Engineer *
> > > > MP3.COM, INC. http://www.mp3.com *
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