It is not illegal to have the Cisco name in your domain name unless you use
it for Cisco Systems content.  After all, there is a Cisco fish, drink, city
and kid to name just a few, and none of those are in violation of the Cisco
Systems trademark.

Tell them you'll hand it over for $10K or a free Catalyst 8500 if they want
it that badly!  :-)


----- Original Message -----
From: DotCom CiscoSite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:25 PM
Subject: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?


> Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
>
> I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
> List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
> and for the information which is very useful, with
> some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
>
> I have just received some messages stating that the
> ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
> of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
> attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
> like this, that the domain name should be handed over
> to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
> it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
> now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
>
> And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
> would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
> before making any further steps. So all of your
> suggestions are very expected.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
>
> With Sincerity,
> Wisin
> http://www.ciscosite.com
>
> Attached message:
>
> Dear Wisin,
>
> I will respond to your questions in turn.
>
> First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
> comply with Cisco's
> requests, we note that the changes we have requested
> have not been made to
> your site to date.  Please ensure that these changes
> are completed by
> October 17, 2000.
>
> Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
> of a domain name has
> no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
> of another party's
> trademark rights.  Registrars do not make independent
> determinations of the
> propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
> determine whether a
> name has been registered previously.  The fact that
> you actually registered
> ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
> Cisco's trademark as part
> of your domain name.
>
> Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
> discontinued use of a
> domain name.  Cisco will provide you with compensation
> for the actual cost
> of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
> permit you to use the
> domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
> purpose of informing
> users of the address of your new website.  If you
> intend to use the site
> temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
> commence this use
> immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
> October 17, 2000.
>
> Thank you for your continued cooperation.
>
> Sincerely,
> BROBECK PHLEGER & HARRISON LLP
> http://www.brobeck.com
>
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