But his site does have Cisco content as well as a great deal of the data is
coppied straing from their site.  This is a problem.  Secondly, I really
would not want to mess with Cisco's legal dept.


----- Original Message -----
From: "whatshakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?


> It is not illegal to have the Cisco name in your domain name unless you
use
> it for Cisco Systems content.  After all, there is a Cisco fish, drink,
city
> and kid to name just a few, and none of those are in violation of the
Cisco
> Systems trademark.
>
> Tell them you'll hand it over for $10K or a free Catalyst 8500 if they
want
> it that badly!  :-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DotCom CiscoSite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:25 PM
> Subject: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
>
>
> > Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
> >
> > I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
> > List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
> > and for the information which is very useful, with
> > some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
> >
> > I have just received some messages stating that the
> > ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
> > of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
> > attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
> > like this, that the domain name should be handed over
> > to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
> > it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
> > now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
> >
> > And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
> > would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
> > before making any further steps. So all of your
> > suggestions are very expected.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
> >
> > With Sincerity,
> > Wisin
> > http://www.ciscosite.com
> >
> > Attached message:
> >
> > Dear Wisin,
> >
> > I will respond to your questions in turn.
> >
> > First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
> > comply with Cisco's
> > requests, we note that the changes we have requested
> > have not been made to
> > your site to date.  Please ensure that these changes
> > are completed by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
> > Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
> > of a domain name has
> > no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
> > of another party's
> > trademark rights.  Registrars do not make independent
> > determinations of the
> > propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
> > determine whether a
> > name has been registered previously.  The fact that
> > you actually registered
> > ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
> > Cisco's trademark as part
> > of your domain name.
> >
> > Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
> > discontinued use of a
> > domain name.  Cisco will provide you with compensation
> > for the actual cost
> > of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
> > permit you to use the
> > domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
> > purpose of informing
> > users of the address of your new website.  If you
> > intend to use the site
> > temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
> > commence this use
> > immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
> > October 17, 2000.
> >
> > Thank you for your continued cooperation.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > BROBECK PHLEGER & HARRISON LLP
> > http://www.brobeck.com
> >
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