You know, come to think about it, Cisco is also a trademark of the
Canadaigua Wine Company. Canadaigua's been around since 1945. Not sure
how long they've been making Cisco wine but IIRC it's longer than Cisco
Systems has been around. Boy, I bet the folks over at Canadaigua would
like to hear about this. If trademark law works the way Cisco Systems
says it works, Canadaigua owns the rights to cisco.com.
I'm sure they'll be willing to sell it back for a small fee.
And if they give me 5% of that for being nice enough to point it out to
them I expect I'll be retiring to my private island soon.
Woo-hoo!
:Fuzz
Who's now going to go shop for helicopters.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, DotCom CiscoSite wrote:
> Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
>
> I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
> List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
> and for the information which is very useful, with
> some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
>
> I have just received some messages stating that the
> ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
> of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
> attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
> like this, that the domain name should be handed over
> to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
> it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
> now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
>
> And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
> would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
> before making any further steps. So all of your
> suggestions are very expected.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
>
> With Sincerity,
> Wisin
> http://www.ciscosite.com
>
> Attached message:
>
> Dear Wisin,
>
> I will respond to your questions in turn.
>
> First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
> comply with Cisco's
> requests, we note that the changes we have requested
> have not been made to
> your site to date. Please ensure that these changes
> are completed by
> October 17, 2000.
>
> Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
> of a domain name has
> no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
> of another party's
> trademark rights. Registrars do not make independent
> determinations of the
> propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
> determine whether a
> name has been registered previously. The fact that
> you actually registered
> ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
> Cisco's trademark as part
> of your domain name.
>
> Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
> discontinued use of a
> domain name. Cisco will provide you with compensation
> for the actual cost
> of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
> permit you to use the
> domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
> purpose of informing
> users of the address of your new website. If you
> intend to use the site
> temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
> commence this use
> immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
> October 17, 2000.
>
> Thank you for your continued cooperation.
>
> Sincerely,
> BROBECK PHLEGER & HARRISON LLP
> http://www.brobeck.com
>
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