I'm not saying I don't think you owe the company if they pay your way,
by no means. I just saying to be aware of what you are agreeing to.
Wow 30K to 120K, I could double my pay and not be at 120K,
it may be time to move forward.
Me
ccnp+security, ccdp, mcse, mcp+i, n+, a+
"Dennis Laganiere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I'm ready to get spammed for this, but here are some thoughts from the
other
> side of management.
>
> If YOU paid for your own training, lab equipment, and lab attempts
(probably
> multiple, at $1,000 piece) then I could see your asking for a huge raise.
>
> HOWEVER, if the company paid for your training, bought $15,000 to $20,000
> worth of lab equipment for you to play with, and gave you the time to
study,
> + lab attempts, +travel expenses+ god-knows-what-else, I think you owe
> something back, and perhaps some time served at your current rate is the
> least they could expect in return.
>
> If they support you through the whole process and you either leave or
start
> barking for the stars salary-wise, the guy next to you, who's six months
> behind you on the same career path, won't get the price of honey for his
> tea.
>
> Again, these are just my $.02
>
>
> --- Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ItsMe
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 1/18/01 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Whew... I passed
>
> Convincing the VP isn't the hard part, its after you pass explaining to
> the
> VP
> that a $20K/year raise is warranted. Which in turn he says your are
> nuts,
> so you decide to leave... until he breaks out the agreement that says in
> fine print that you have agreed to pay back all training funds it you
> leave...
> Be careful!
>
> "Jim Healis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2">news:DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2...
> > Well, I did it. I passed the CCIE written exam this morning. And, for
> just
> > a moment, I felt the weight of the world lift off my shoulders. Then
> I
> > thought about the lab exam and what I need to do to get there.
> Thankfully,
> > I have a plan; it just needs to be put on paper so it can be a working
> > document.
> > I have posted much in the recent weeks about how I have studied to get
> this
> > far, so I won't post it again. But if you have specific questions
> about
> > certain areas, that won't violate the NDA, I will be happy to answer
> them.
> > Now, my next challenge comes along... not the lab... convincing my
> boss
> that
> > the company should pay for the lab exam and any needed materials for
> getting
> > there. I know that I shouldn't rely on this as the means to the end;
> but
> if
> > I can get it, why not? Anyone have any pointers on how to convince a
> VP
> > that doesn't know much about the CCIE program that he should approve
> these
> > things?
> > Thanks for the wonderful humor and study tips!
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
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