Man, oh Man.
You are a CCNP/ CCDP and your not pulling 60k? My friend, you need to stand
the hell up and get paid appropriately for your expertise. Do you realize
that in NYC, you could take home 100k just on your certs alone. The
thousands of Cisco Partners in this area gobble up anyone with CCNx next to
there name (provided your resume isn't empty).
Once again, feel free to flame away. Just my humble $.02.
-Scott
""ItsMe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm not saying I don't think you owe the company if they pay your way,
> by no means. I just saying to be aware of what you are agreeing to.
>
> Wow 30K to 120K, I could double my pay and not be at 120K,
> it may be time to move forward.
>
> Me
> ccnp+security, ccdp, mcse, mcp+i, n+, a+
>
> "Dennis Laganiere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm ready to get spammed for this, but here are some thoughts from the
> other
> > side of management.
> >
> > If YOU paid for your own training, lab equipment, and lab attempts
> (probably
> > multiple, at $1,000 piece) then I could see your asking for a huge
raise.
> >
> > HOWEVER, if the company paid for your training, bought $15,000 to
$20,000
> > worth of lab equipment for you to play with, and gave you the time to
> study,
> > + lab attempts, +travel expenses+ god-knows-what-else, I think you owe
> > something back, and perhaps some time served at your current rate is the
> > least they could expect in return.
> >
> > If they support you through the whole process and you either leave or
> start
> > barking for the stars salary-wise, the guy next to you, who's six months
> > behind you on the same career path, won't get the price of honey for his
> > tea.
> >
> > Again, these are just my $.02
> >
> >
> > --- Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ItsMe
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 1/18/01 6:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Whew... I passed
> >
> > Convincing the VP isn't the hard part, its after you pass explaining to
> > the
> > VP
> > that a $20K/year raise is warranted. Which in turn he says your are
> > nuts,
> > so you decide to leave... until he breaks out the agreement that says in
> > fine print that you have agreed to pay back all training funds it you
> > leave...
> > Be careful!
> >
> > "Jim Healis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2">news:DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2...
> > > Well, I did it. I passed the CCIE written exam this morning. And, for
> > just
> > > a moment, I felt the weight of the world lift off my shoulders. Then
> > I
> > > thought about the lab exam and what I need to do to get there.
> > Thankfully,
> > > I have a plan; it just needs to be put on paper so it can be a working
> > > document.
> > > I have posted much in the recent weeks about how I have studied to get
> > this
> > > far, so I won't post it again. But if you have specific questions
> > about
> > > certain areas, that won't violate the NDA, I will be happy to answer
> > them.
> > > Now, my next challenge comes along... not the lab... convincing my
> > boss
> > that
> > > the company should pay for the lab exam and any needed materials for
> > getting
> > > there. I know that I shouldn't rely on this as the means to the end;
> > but
> > if
> > > I can get it, why not? Anyone have any pointers on how to convince a
> > VP
> > > that doesn't know much about the CCIE program that he should approve
> > these
> > > things?
> > > Thanks for the wonderful humor and study tips!
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
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