I've always thought that I'd have to arrange for a large signing bonus, or a
direct payment from a company hiring me to my current employer to cover
training/tests my employer had paid for. Although, my current employer has
a fairly reasonable policy: I only owe for the last year of training, and
it's prorated each month, so if I left 11 months after a bunch of
tests/training, I'd only owe back 1/12th of the cost. Most of our training
is free (Cisco partner training), and it's required, so I wouldn't owe for
that. The resources I'm allow to buy are all returned to our library, so
nothing owed their. The biggest thing so far are the tests. At $100 each,
I'm $600 down right now for my CCNP+Security/CCDP tests all passed recently.
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Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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""ItsMe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:948h65$j28$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm not saying I don't think you owe the company if they pay your way,
> by no means. I just saying to be aware of what you are agreeing to.
>
> Wow 30K to 120K, I could double my pay and not be at 120K,
> it may be time to move forward.
>
> Me
> ccnp+security, ccdp, mcse, mcp+i, n+, a+
>
> "Dennis Laganiere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm ready to get spammed for this, but here are some thoughts from the
> other
> > side of management.
> >
> > If YOU paid for your own training, lab equipment, and lab attempts
> (probably
> > multiple, at $1,000 piece) then I could see your asking for a huge
raise.
> >
> > HOWEVER, if the company paid for your training, bought $15,000 to
$20,000
> > worth of lab equipment for you to play with, and gave you the time to
> study,
> > + lab attempts, +travel expenses+ god-knows-what-else, I think you owe
> > something back, and perhaps some time served at your current rate is the
> > least they could expect in return.
> >
> > If they support you through the whole process and you either leave or
> start
> > barking for the stars salary-wise, the guy next to you, who's six months
> > behind you on the same career path, won't get the price of honey for his
> > tea.
> >
> > Again, these are just my $.02
> >
> >
> > --- Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ItsMe
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 1/18/01 6:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Whew... I passed
> >
> > Convincing the VP isn't the hard part, its after you pass explaining to
> > the
> > VP
> > that a $20K/year raise is warranted. Which in turn he says your are
> > nuts,
> > so you decide to leave... until he breaks out the agreement that says in
> > fine print that you have agreed to pay back all training funds it you
> > leave...
> > Be careful!
> >
> > "Jim Healis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2">news:DF49A3EC4130D411AC1600508B608DDF01116426@DIALPAD-EX2...
> > > Well, I did it. I passed the CCIE written exam this morning. And, for
> > just
> > > a moment, I felt the weight of the world lift off my shoulders. Then
> > I
> > > thought about the lab exam and what I need to do to get there.
> > Thankfully,
> > > I have a plan; it just needs to be put on paper so it can be a working
> > > document.
> > > I have posted much in the recent weeks about how I have studied to get
> > this
> > > far, so I won't post it again. But if you have specific questions
> > about
> > > certain areas, that won't violate the NDA, I will be happy to answer
> > them.
> > > Now, my next challenge comes along... not the lab... convincing my
> > boss
> > that
> > > the company should pay for the lab exam and any needed materials for
> > getting
> > > there. I know that I shouldn't rely on this as the means to the end;
> > but
> > if
> > > I can get it, why not? Anyone have any pointers on how to convince a
> > VP
> > > that doesn't know much about the CCIE program that he should approve
> > these
> > > things?
> > > Thanks for the wonderful humor and study tips!
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
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