You're attributing a fault in "these guys" to a certification which doesn't
test on UNIX skills. In other words, they're CCIEs - they know more than
you or I do about routing and switching on Cisco routers (presumably). But
the CCIE is the *beginning* of an overall understanding of how networks
work - it's not the end-all-be-all certification which automatically
elevates someone to godlike status, as much as you might want them to be
networking gods.
This is actually one thing I'm worried about, should I ever achieve the CCIE
certification: I don't want some future employer to say "Oh, you're a CCIE,
great - come over here and fix this NT server," only to be disappointed to
learn that I know nothing about NT!
The bottom line is: don't criticize a CCIE because they don't know how to
use or manage a UNIX server. That's not what they've been trained to do,
it's not what they're certified to do, and if you're smart, you won't hire
someone to do UNIX stuff without making them prove that they *can* do it.
In other words, quit your bellyaching. ;-)
BJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Young"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:14 PM
Subject: what's wrong with CCIE today? [7:13151]
> What's wrong with CCIEs today? I know that I am making a general
> assumptions; however,this is the second time that it has happend to the
> company that I work for. We have several tacacs servers that use to
> authenticate users. These tacacs servers are running on a combination of
> Linux and Solaris platforms. While I was away at the Networker
> Conference, one of our tacacs servers (solaris) die due to hardware
> failure and the amazingly the tacacs process on the Linux die. Because
> of this, everyone has to login to the routers and switches via local
> account. We hire these CCIEs to maintain the network while I am away for
> a few weeks. None of these CCIEs have any background with tacacs servers
> running on Unix platforms. As to our problems, the simple to do is just
> to restart the tacacs process byfirst: "killall tac_plus" and second
> "/usr/sbin/tac_plus -C /etc/tacacs/tac_plus.cfg" but these CCIEs guys
> have absolutely no clues. Furthermore, they don't even know how to use
> editing in Unix (i.e vi or emacs) and ended up screwing up my tacacs
> configuration files. We have a few employees that need tacacs account
> but these CCIEs guys have no clues how to addnew users to a configuration
> file which if anyone has done tacacs on the unix platform know that you
> just modify the configuration file tac_plus.conf and restart tacacs
> process. These CCIE guys say that they come from a windows environment
> so they don't have too much with Unix platforms. I also notice that a
> lot of CCIEs these days lack the Unix skills that are required for the
> Service Providers environment. Most don't even know how to tunnel
> X-application through Secure Shell (SSH). I still remember those days
> when Cisco Engineers are very well verse in both unix and routers
> skills. I long for those days again. Comments anyone?
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