>Just think. Howard B isn't qualified for that job because he didn't certify
>as a CCIE years ago. And as we all know, he doesn't even come CLOSE to
>having those kinds of qualifications!
Actually, you remind me of a dinner when I was teaching for what is
now Information Innovations, headed by Gary Rubin. We were going
around the table, comparing our CCSI numbers, and he very proudly
claimed 93007. I looked at him with great compassion and said
softly..."Gary, I'm 93005."
For that matter, I've never seen Tony Li, Yakov Rekhter, Dino
Farinacci, Paul Ferguson, Paul Traina, Fred Baker, Dave Katz, Derek
Yeung, Eric Rosen, etc., while they are/were at Cisco, sign
themselves as CCIE. Among that list are the principal architects of
BGP, ISIS, EIGRP, OSPF, QoS, and MPLS (at least the Cisco
implementations). The list also includes the former head of the IETF
and any number of WG chairs, IESG, and IAB members.
As to the job posting -- are we sure it doesn't come from Catbert,
evil HR Director?
>
>Simple point is... not everyone that's got years and years of experience
>certified with Cisco. Many people I know don't feel that they have to prove
>their knowledge by sitting an exam.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> EA Louie
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:37 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
>>
>>
>> that is not a big deal. One recruiter asking for a sub-3000 CCIE ensures
>> them someone with at least 5 years of CCIE experience. It may not be a
>> reflection of their overall experience, but apparently that's not
>> what he's
>> looking for.
>>
>> If you had taken and passed your lab exam at this time last year,
>> you would
>> have been in the 6200 range - still not enough to qualify for this job.
>>
>> The range for the job is stated in the posting - BGP, OSPF, STP,
RIPv1/v2.
>> Note that the current CCIE lab doesn't test Spanning Tree Protocol.
>>
>> That one job posting is not enough to get excited about, IMHO. Shoulda,
>> coulda, woulda got your cert - my first lab attempt was 6 years ago -
what
>> CCIE would that have made me, had I passed it? ... though the CCIE's
today
>> might have a broader range, the elder CCIE's did not have the WEALTH of
>> study information and guides that we have today, so I'd call that a wash.
>> The recruiter is trying to narrow the search down to about 2000
>> candidates,
>> most of whom are probably either gainfully employed, or retired
>> from active
>> networking duty.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eric Rogers"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:02 PM
>> Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
>>
>>
>> > I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
>> > attention.
>> >
>> > dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
>> >
>> >
>> > This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
>> number
>> > range for a CCIE job!!!
>> >
>> > My question aloud is this -
>> >
>> > With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to
find
>> > that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number
the
>> > less value to the customer/employer/client.
>> >
>> > Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
>> that the CCIE
>> > made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
>> years
>> > ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
>> >
>> > DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
>> > stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
>> >
>> > Me: "Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz"
>> >
>> > Headhunter: "Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc"
>> >
>> > I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
>> > managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for
>> the CCIE in
>> > the long run.
>> >
>> >
> > > Just MY percecption I guess!
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