At what location are you taking your Cisco Academy classes?? Just curious; I have a friend that is also taking the classes, and I was quite surprised at the layout (content) of the courses for each semester. Though, after thinking about it, I think the Cisco Academy format is probably the best way to learn how to become a Cisco Engineer at the CCNP+ level. I just don't agree with how drawn out it is over so, so many college semesters. I personally think that most individuals could and should be able to master CCNP level material in 9 months or less. The biggest challenge for anybody is the math involved in the IP address subnetting, VLSM, and Access-Lists. Once you get past that, I think the rest is a no-brainer, as you more-or-less just have to learn a laundry list of rules on how each protocol is implemented, how they work with each other, and why.
Now, that's not to mean that I think that within 9 months or less, those same engineers would be CCIE level networking experts (in my opinion at least). Learning in-depth practices for some of the protocols (OSPF, IS-IS, BGP, SNA, DECnet, Vines, etc.) that there isn't much "field" practice impressed upon, is a totally different ball game. For some of these protocols, you simply can only rely on On-the-Job experience, as it's a little difficult at best to emulate at home a Mainframe, or a Vines server/client environment (just as an example). Just my 00000010 cents worth :) Mark Odette II StellarConnection Services -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cisco academy's routing skills final ,tough!!! [7:29212] Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing labs and taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and (hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In fact the whole class failed!!!!. One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through the final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration . Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of having someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't have those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to implement them your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own written notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of you . Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole environment together is a whole different animal . Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and trouble shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't large and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them other than having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the details and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't know and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part . Buyer Beware !!! Overall it was good to go through and to be pushed just shows the weak areas FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29293&t=29212 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
