>Chuck wrote, Let he who has never done something stupid while >learning this stuff cast >the first stone ;->
People who live in optical networks shouldn't cast stones. Further, executives of optical networking firms should only order VIP furniture when it is actually needed, rather than store it on upper floors. For, it is written, people who live in glass houses shouldn't store thrones. [Apologies in advance to those who are not native English speakers, and possibly to those who are.] > > >""Brian Whalen"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> How inept does a netadmin have to be to block his own servers. If Im that >> guys boss, he is so fired.. >> >> Brian "Sonic" Whalen >> Success = Preparation + Opportunity >> >> >> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, John Allhiser wrote: >> >> > This discussion reminds me of a popular quote I see all the time on >another >> > forum: "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral >> > problems." >> > --attributed to Ed Crowley, Compaq Technical Consultant >> > >> > A friend of mine worked for a company that had a problem with a certain >> > spammer. >> > They blocked the IP address of the offending emailer at the gateway, and >to >> > their utter astonishment, the pernicious perpetrator changed its IP. >The >> > spam >> > continued to flow. >> > Eventually, after about 9 IPs were entered into the "deny" access-list, >the >> > legitmate email started having problems (the spammer seemed to have been >> > stopped).+ >> > >> > Long story, short: The spammer was using the company's ISP's mail relay >> host >> > addresses. >> > By shutting down those IPs, they effectively shut down their Intenet >mail >> > service. >> > >> > --John >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:56 PM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: How to block MSN, and others. [7:31057] >> > >> > >> > I suppose it comes down to they type of company/employees. I'm more used >to >> > companies that leave things fairly open for employees, and demand >(rather >> > than expect) that the employee be responsible with it. >> > Employees will understand that monitoring needs to be done at times and >> > offenders be dealt with. >> > "Firm and fair" sometimes works better than "beat me if you can". Not >> always >> > though, so admittedly it's horses for courses. >> > >> > Gaz >> > >> > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >> > > Let me put something into perspective here. It was said earlier about >why >> > > give access then block it. Why indeed... the why is for BUSINESS >> reasons.. >> > > not day trading, not stock tickers, not chatting for hours(documented) >> > with >> > > friends at the expense of work, viruses coming in on Hotmail >attachments >> > > that bypass the clamped down exchange server and so on. >> > > >> > > The internet is given to employees for business reasons with the >> > expectation >> > > that the employee will be responsible with it. Will there be personal >> > use.. >> > > of course.. just like the phone. Why limit certain things? gee.. the >> > company >> > > pays for a T1, they have 4,000 users, 100 decide to watch a Victoria >> > Secret >> > > webcast at 300Kbps.. see the problem? This not theorical.. this >really >> > > happened to one of my clients and the webcastusers/readaudio users >> managed >> > > to max out the T during working hours. >> > > >> > > The courts have already decided for good or bad that email is company >> > > property and they can do what they wish with it. I would imagine that >web >> > > access falls under the same rules as it's a company building, desk, >PC(or >> > > Mac), servers, connection and so on. >> > > >> > > My opinion >> > > >> > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=31271&t=31057 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
