How inept does a netadmin have to be to block his own servers. If Im that guys boss, he is so fired..
Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, John Allhiser wrote: > This discussion reminds me of a popular quote I see all the time on another > forum: "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > --attributed to Ed Crowley, Compaq Technical Consultant > > A friend of mine worked for a company that had a problem with a certain > spammer. > They blocked the IP address of the offending emailer at the gateway, and to > their utter astonishment, the pernicious perpetrator changed its IP. The > spam > continued to flow. > Eventually, after about 9 IPs were entered into the "deny" access-list, the > legitmate email started having problems (the spammer seemed to have been > stopped).+ > > Long story, short: The spammer was using the company's ISP's mail relay host > addresses. > By shutting down those IPs, they effectively shut down their Intenet mail > service. > > --John > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How to block MSN, and others. [7:31057] > > > I suppose it comes down to they type of company/employees. I'm more used to > companies that leave things fairly open for employees, and demand (rather > than expect) that the employee be responsible with it. > Employees will understand that monitoring needs to be done at times and > offenders be dealt with. > "Firm and fair" sometimes works better than "beat me if you can". Not always > though, so admittedly it's horses for courses. > > Gaz > > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Let me put something into perspective here. It was said earlier about why > > give access then block it. Why indeed... the why is for BUSINESS reasons.. > > not day trading, not stock tickers, not chatting for hours(documented) > with > > friends at the expense of work, viruses coming in on Hotmail attachments > > that bypass the clamped down exchange server and so on. > > > > The internet is given to employees for business reasons with the > expectation > > that the employee will be responsible with it. Will there be personal > use.. > > of course.. just like the phone. Why limit certain things? gee.. the > company > > pays for a T1, they have 4,000 users, 100 decide to watch a Victoria > Secret > > webcast at 300Kbps.. see the problem? This not theorical.. this really > > happened to one of my clients and the webcastusers/readaudio users managed > > to max out the T during working hours. > > > > The courts have already decided for good or bad that email is company > > property and they can do what they wish with it. I would imagine that web > > access falls under the same rules as it's a company building, desk, PC(or > > Mac), servers, connection and so on. > > > > My opinion > > > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=31237&t=31057 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]