If you are a new CCNA/CCNP with no hands on experience, get a lab, get a router, even a router simulor if you have to. Its better then nothing. If your young energetic, positive attitude, employers will notice.
No matter what people tell you, companies are looking for Junior Engineers now more then anytime ever. If you have a "go getter" attitude, they might take notice. That is what is needed, because a lot of places look at you as an entire package. One advantage you have is you cost less then a senior engineer. As long as you have a "willing to learn" attitude, they know your going to work hard. I have a "don't take no as an answer attitude", Ill take 1000 no's to get one yes. If you take an approach like "I am going to get this job by any means necessary (keep it legal though)", you're going to get noticed. Call the mail room, get a phone list. If one person in HR tells you no, find someone else. Call 500 times, Call the CEO. If they see you want in that bad, there going to let you in. Tell them your work extra hours, weekends, holidays, travel to wherever. The market has been down, and I haven't let that discourage me. I see other people slacking with there certs (not this group), and that makes me work twice as hard. I don't want to make excuses, and I don't want to look back 2 years from now saying "I shoulda" and "only if". Nothing in my life has been handed to be, and in reality, a CCNP router job is not going to come knock on your door for anyone. And either is anything else in life, its amazing how some people thing that. Your going to fail, your going to get some "NO's". As a matter of a fact, a recruiter told me, (after I didn't take job from them). "Companies are not going to look at you, You don't have Enterprise experience." He was angry that I didn't take a contract. Ironicly, the same guy called me back 2 weeks later saying he had a position for one of his largest companies. Event though the recruiter talked to me like a piece of ###, I didn't lash back. One of the main reason was I didn't want to get "Blacklisted", or even take a chance of getting a bad rap. Your going to get a few slaps in the face as well. Well I hope this helps you out a little, if you believe in yourself, you will be fine. >>> "Lomker, Michael" 04/03/02 02:49PM >>> > How do I get a job that works with Cisco products, > without alot of experience or a CCIE? No kidding and good luck. Even when the economy was good I couldn't find a job. If you have a BSEE your odds are a lot better, but my business degree didn't get me anywhere. My current position is 75% NT and 25% Cisco. You might have to find a job like mine at a company that will give you some exposure to the Cisco equipment. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Confidentiality Disclaimer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. ("WellStar") and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. ================================================================ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=40483&t=40328 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]