What happens when the T1 provider goes down?  Those IP's will no longer be
reachable and the servers will be down.  Without BGP I don't see how you are
going to get the DSL circuit to take over the IP's that the T1 provider
advertises.  Assuming you have BGP, I would thing that policy routing and
using different global addresses would get the job done.  Sounds to me like
the only barrier is getting BGP.


""Kent Hundley""  wrote in message
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> Wayne,
>
> I would suggest disabling NAT on the PIX and performing your NAT on the
> router.  This eliminates the problem of not knowing what packets originate
> from the servers.  Then, setup Policy-Based Routing (PBR) on the router.
> You didn't post your config, so I assume you have 2 legal addresses, one
> from each ISP and you don't have your own address space.  If you want to
> setup inbound services you'll have to setup static NAT on the router for
the
> services you want to allow.  For outbound the PBR it's pretty simple:
>
> int s 0
>  interface to T1
>
> int e 0
>   interface to DSL
>
> int
>  ip policy route-map test
>
> access-list 100  any
>
> route-map test permit 10
>   match ip address 100
>   set int s 0
> route-map test permit 20
>
> For outbound traffic packets from the servers will be sent out the T1 as
> long as it is up, all other traffic will be forwarded normally.  You'll
want
> to set your routing so that the DSL line is the preferred path for all
> traffic.  If the T1 goes down, the traffic from the servers will be sent
out
> the DSL.
>
> Additional problems that I see are if your servers are to be accessible
from
> the Internet, you will need to have static translations setup for your
> services on both the T1 and the DSL.  You can do this, but the issue
becomes
> name resolution and which address is returned to users on the Internet.
> It's probably safer to just setup the translations for the T1 and leave it
> at that. (you could play some games if you ran your own DNS, but things
get
> complicated pretty quickly)
>
> You don't need the FFS on the router as long as everything is behind the
PIX
> (although it shouldn't hurt) and you don't need the link between the
router
> and the PIX to be have a public address space as long as you do the NAT on
> the router.
>
> Of course, you also will want to harden the Internet facing router if you
> have not already done so.
>
> One more thing, it's not really accurate to say the PIX "doesn't route".
> People say this all the time and what they really mean is that the PIX
> doesn't support routing protocols and some "fancy" routing techniques like
> PBR.  However, the PIX does perform layer 3 forwarding based on its
routing
> table, this means, by definition, it is "routing".  It just doesn't have
the
> same features and functions for layer 3 forwarding that cisco routers
have.
> (this is kind of a nit, but saying the PIX doesn't route tends to confuse
> people)
>
> HTH,
> Kent
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Wayne Jang
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Pix don't route [7:46356]
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The Pix don't route, but can I do this?
>
> I have a 2 server 20 user small office.
>
> I have a Pix 506 sitting in front of a 2621 with a T1 and a DSL link to
the
> Internet.  I'm not looking to load balance or even do redundancy.  I just
> want traffic from the servers to use the T1 and I want traffic from the
> users to use DSL.  I could use access-lists on the 2621 to direct the
> traffic based on source address, but how will the 2621 know where the
> traffic came from?  Won't all traffic have a source address of the Pix
> outside interface?  What if I Nat the servers(on PIx) so that they will
> appear to have a different source IP than the users who will be behind the
> global outside address?  I'll need more public addresses, but that would
be
> fine.
>
> I can't get any help from Cisco Pre-Sales because they aren't sure.  I
can't
> get an engineer that knows more than me (not much).
>
> My fall back plan is to only use the 2621 and have a firewall IOS.  But I
> would rather use the Pix, especially because we have already quoted the
> above solution and are working to save face.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Wayne Jang
> Advanced Computer Technologies, Inc.
> 108 Main Street
> Norwalk, CT 06851
> Wk 203-847-9433
> Cell 203-943-6603




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