would somebody just change some settings on an external CSU/DSU and report
the results? Who cares if it's a production network? It's getting towards
midnight, it'll only take a couple of minutes, and the suits are all asleep!
;->


""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> This isn't quite true.  For example, a DCE router interface will be
> down/down if DTR is not raised by the DTE device.  I see this quite
> often at work and faulty cabling is generally not the culprit.  It's
> almost always bad hardware in the DTE.
>
> John
>
> Michael L. Williams wrote:
> > According to CCIE exam materials, the *only* time the serial will show
> > down/down is when there is NO serial cable or a bad serial cable
connected.
> > So even if you have a misconfigured framing method, you should at least
see
> > up/down.....
> >
> > Mike W.
> >
> > "Bob Timmons"  wrote in message
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> >
> >>I can't say I've ever seen a down/up condition.  Up/Down perhaps.
> >>
> >>I'm sure there are exceptions, but it's my belief that the router
doesn't
> >>care about encoding, but rather a layer-1 connection to the dce/dte
> >
> > device.
> >
> >>If the router can 'talk' to the device on the other end of the cable,
you
> >>should get an up/x condition, where x would depend on the csu/dsu
> >
> > condition
> >
> >>of the line.
> >>
> >>I don't have a csu handy, otherwise I'd check that right now.  I can do
> >
> > that
> >
> >>tomorrow morning (10:30 pm est here), but you may have an answer prior
to
> >>that...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Priscilla,
> >>>
> >>>I have actually had this scenario (multiple times), but due to the
> >>
> > Telco's
> >
> >>>misconfiguration.
> >>>Specifically we were expecting b8zs/esf. Unfortunately I can't confirm
> >>>which was configured incorrectly, but I can confirm that going through
> >>>all of the different combinations available at the router you will
> >>>get all combinations on the serial interface (up/up, down/up and
> >>
> >>down/down).
> >>
> >>>I can also confirm, you will not establish connectivity, regardless. I
> >>>believe
> >>>either b8zs/esf or sf/ami are the only valid combinations. At least
that
> >>
> >>is
> >>
> >>>all I've
> >>>ever worked with.
> >>>
> >>>Hope this helps,
> >>>-TV
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>>
> >>>>Hi Group Study,
> >>>>
> >>>>While writing some questions for a practice test, I found myself
> >>>>questioning what I thought was the right answer. Here's the scenario:
> >>>>
> >>>>A Cisco router serial interface is correctly connected with a good
> >>>
> > V.35
> >
> >>>>cable to the data port on the DSU side of a CSU/DSU. The CSU/DSU has
> >>>
> >>been
> >>
> >>>>misconfigured for the framing method (SF instead of ESF). The framing
> >>>>doesn't match what the provider is using. (The question refers to a
> >>>
> >>>CSU/DSU
> >>>
> >>>>that is external to the router, not one that is built into the
> >>>
> > router.)
> >
> >>>>Will the Cisco router serial interface be down/down or up/down?
> >>>>
> >>>>And, would the answer be any different if the question has to do with
> >>>>misconfiguring the encoding (AMI versus B8ZS)?
> >>>>
> >>>>If you have real-world experience with this, that would help. I have
> >>>
> >>read
> >>
> >>>>the Cisco documentation and the troubleshooting charts, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>Priscilla
> >>>>
> >>>>________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >>>>http://www.priscilla.com




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