""Howard C. Berkowitz"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > >I got an even more fundamental question - why does MPLS require IP at snip a bit >
> I've been involved in Formal International Standards Bodies, where > the Camel was developed as a functional specification for a Mouse. > The market and the world are far faster than the carriers would like > it to be. > > When I worked for a primarily carrier-oriented vendor, there were > deep emotions that they could make IP go away with: > (1) Ubiquitous fiber > (2) Apparently manually provisioned MPLS, since they equated the topology > to something of equal complexity and hierarchy to what you can do in > SS#7. CL: not that the top bananas at the various telcos ever talk to me about it, but I sure have the distinct impression that telcos in general still believe without question that L3 devices are just boxes that plug into telco networks. L3 switch, router, CSU, modem, analogue telephone - they're all the same to a telco, or so it appears to me. hell, even Qwest, which started out as an innovative transport carrier / CLEC, went and bought themselves a telco and now look at them :-> > snip a bit > > What do you propose as a scalable alternative that doesn't simply > meet telephony needs? > CL: the question is really "why should a telco care, so long as you buy whatever it is they want to sell you?" of all the ironies, these days it seems like my employer's biggest foil is former parent AT&T, who are in our faces trying to steal all our customers by offering dark fiber - something we don't want to do because there's nothing in it for us. AT&T the telco is still selling lines - only they aren't lit. So what does AT&T care about MPLS, if what they sell is dark? My employer, on the other hand, wants to sell SONET and gigaman. What do we care about MPLS, just so long as you buy. CL: Like I said, not that I know a lot about running a telco, but what's in it for the telco? snip Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54613&t=54507 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]