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""nrf"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > snip a bit > Here I must disagree. The fact is the traditional carriers basically are > the market, in the sense that they are the ones with money to spend. It > doesn't really matter if the standards bodies come up with all sorts of cool > and funky technologies if nobody implements them. The only providers who > are really in a position to implement much of anything these days are the > traditional carriers because they are the only ones who actually have money > (practically all of the pure Internet service-providers are bleeding red ink > everywhere). And those traditional carriers are only going to implement > something to the degree that it is profitable to do so. CL: given the current carrier announcements of severe reductions in capital spending, it might seem that carrier based MPLS is moot for the time being anyway > > Which is why I am concerned for the future of MPLS. In its original > conception, MPLS offered the promise for a generalized control-plane that > could potentially span all the gear that a carrier has to run. A Grand > Unified Theory of networking, if you will. > > Now, it has become IP-centric, and Internet-centric in particular (i.e. the > involvement of the IETF). But the fact of the matter is that IP services > in general, and the Internet in particular, are still highly unprofitable > for the carriers. CL: not to mention the fact that carriers appear just to want to sell transport lines. the attitude seems to be that routers, switches, modems, or telephones are all the same - boxes that plug in to what the telcos offer. Untold billions have been spent on carrier Internet > infrastructure with nary a hope of ever getting a semi-reasonable return on > investment. The Internet has become a godsend to the consumer but a > financial nightmare for the carriers. CL: see previous comment > > Which is why I believe that any new carrier-style technology that is > directed towards the Internet will achieve unnecessarily slow adoption by > the carriers. Now don't get me wrong, MPLS will be adopted, the real > question is how quickly. If much of the work on MPLS is done mostly on IP > and Internet features, and not on the more traditional telco features, this > will slow the adoption of MPLS. Traditional carriers are not exactly > champing at the bit to spend money adopting new Internet technology now that > financial sanity has returned to the fold (notice how so many carriers are > cancelling or slowing their Internet buildouts?). CL: not anymore they aren't. see recent announcements by major carriers regarding reductions in capital spending, which in turn will adversely effect the rest of the food chain. > snip some more Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54629&t=54507 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]