I have taken all of the classes listed below while in the engineering school at University of Wisconsin.
I know that there was not one of them that demanded the attention to detail and total commitment that was required to get my CCIE. I carried a 4.0 through almost all of those classes while barely cracking a book. I wish I could have said the same about my CCIE. Then I wouldn't have had to ignore my wife and son for the last year and a half. I am not knocking a degree, because I feel it is as important if not more so than my certification. But to say that the degree is tougher is not necessarily true. It is comparing apples to oranges. The degree is almost all book knowledge where if you can regurgitate the correct answer without totally understanding it you pass. Try to pass the lab without a complete understanding of the topics covered. But at the same time, the CCIE focuses on a narrow range of topics where any good degree forces you to learn a wide breadth of information. Anyone who knocks either without having achieved them both is not doing justice to the people who worked hard to achieve what they have done. I know of engineers who said their CCIE was harder than their degree and vice versa. So give everyone credit for what they have achieved and don't knock them for what they haven't. I hate to admit it but the smartest person I ever knew in my life only had a sixth grade education and taught himself everything on his own after that. He taught himself Calculus, Physics and a lot of advanced engineering skills. He never had a diploma, degree or any certifications. But if I can ever achieve one tenth of the knowledge that he had I would be happy. Titles and letters after your name mean nothing, the only thing that matters is what you can do, and that you never give up. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of l0stbyte Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481] Ladrach, Daniel E. wrote: > I have an MIS degree from The Ohio State University Max Fisher College of > Business. I see some posts out there saying that a CS degree is no > more than > a vocational degree. Obviously this person has not been to college! > College > is not there to prepare you to step in and do a Sr. Engineer job, it is > there to give you a base understanding of IT. I however, have a business > degree with an IT focus. So, when you have been through the classes I have > you form a level of respect for anyone who has been down the same road. > > When the CCIE gets as challenging as the following let me know. > > Calculus > Physics > Finance > Accounting > Economics > CS-programming > CS-operating systems > CS-networking > > > > Daniel Ladrach > CCNA, CCNP > WorldCom All of the listed should be thought in high school. Unless it's some kind of quantum programming (is it still a concept?), CCIE should be by far more challenging. My two cents.. :) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60137&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
