Thomas, I am sorry to disappoint you about the "THERE IS NO PAPER CCIE" but my younger brother achieved his CCIE status in just over 3 months. He passed the CCIE lab exam in his first try (last July in San Jose). Prior to that, he only had 3 months of networking experiences by playing with our home network. By the way, he has an amazing memory (biology major) so that he just worked on all the lab scenarios and remembered all of them. As I've mentioned before, it took him 6 months to achieve his CCIE status. Anyway, he was fired from his first job for being incompetent, don't know what port 443 is used for. He is now accepting a low paying job just to get up the speed in the networking even though he is a fast learner. The company he is working for demands that he knows everything from Firewalls, routers and programming. He knows that there are unemployed CCIEs out there. The point I am trying to make here is that there are ways to beat the system in achieving the CCIE status and there are "paper CCIEs" out there and my brother is a prime example of that. Just my .02c Eric Thomas wrote:I have heard these stories for years now. They always start with ... I knew a guy who knew a guy that was a CCIE and he didn't know this or he didn't know that. We all know what knowledge, skills, dedication, focus, perserverance it takes to pass the CCIE.
When I see someone that tries to make themselves feel smarter or downplay the importance/accomplishment of being a CCIE, because of 1 CCIE who did not at that particular moment know something rather trivial, I just laugh. There are no paper CCIEs and there will be none. As long as the integrity of the test remains the way it is. ""2bie"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > It's not a fault of CCIE program .It's his mistake ;-) > But, Did he receive his number ? Yes ? OK, surely he have a deep knowledge > about OSPF, BPG, Redistribute, TCP/IP (except port 80), VoIP, Switching > ..... I think it's enough, and I respect him. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ladrach, Daniel E." > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:57 AM > Subject: Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS degree [7:59481] > > > > I just want to make one more comment. I worked with a CCIE candidate not > to > > long ago that did not know what port 80 was. Also, he took the lab and did > > fairly well. > > > > Daniel Ladrach > > CCNA, CCNP > > WorldCom Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60533&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]