Everyone has their preferences, and the best thing to do is to try it all and pick what you like.
That said... here's my experience with IntelliJ, and others Table of Contents: 1. On IntelliJ 2. On Emacs and "Emacs Live" 3. On Light Table 4. On Sublime Text (ST) 5. Conclusion 1. On IntelliJ ----------------- I've tried Eclipse, NetBeans, and IntelliJ for Java development. Of those, I only tried IntelliJ for Clojure development because I despise Eclipse's bloat and poor UI design, and Netbeans, while better (IMO), just isn't as slick and fast, and... intelligent :-p as IntelliJ. I really cannot wrap my head around why so many people like Eclipse. I think it must be a Mac/Windows-type phenomenon or something. There I've gone and pissed off half the users on this list... :-p IntelliJ's La Clojure and Leiningen plugins are alright. They have some code sense autocompletion stuff, and you can jump to definitions (to an extent, it doesn't always work). Overall it's my 2nd favorite choice for Clojure only because it too, is too bloated for my liking. Not as bloated as the other two "big IDEs", but still bloated. 2. On Emacs and "Emacs Live" ---------------------------------------- I've used Emacs off and on for about 3 years now. I spent weeks, probably months customizing it, trying out the emacs-starter-kit and making it my own. I let it along after I went on a Clojure sabbatical for a while and lived in Xcode. When I came back, I saw this "Emacs Live" project and decided to give emacs one more shot because of it. IMO, it sucks. Emacs is always going to suck from a UI and GTD perspective. It will only be embraced by the hardcore tinkerers who get a kick out of spending equal time tinkering with their editor as they do actual coding. It's kinda like the software equivalent of owning a Harley Davidson, except you look a nerd instead of an intimidating biker. Emacs Live is also slow. Out of the box it's slow to launch on my fast 2010 MBP 2.4Ghz Core i5 with 8GB of RAM and an SSD. They'll tell ya to run emacsclient and all that but it's just more bullshit. If you like tinkering and memorizing a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, go with Emacs. Make sure you have a nice IRC client though because you're going to need it when things stop working. Emacs has one built-in btw, but you might need to get a regular GUI-based IRC client first, you know, so that you can figure out the Emacs-based one. :-p 3. On Light Table ----------------------- Light Table seems promising but in my testing it's not ready for daily use, mostly due to lack of plugins and missing features. 4. On Sublime Text (ST) -------------------------------- Sublime Text is fucking awesome. This is my #1 choice for Clojure development. While ST3 is in beta, it's best to use version 2 because many plugins, including the REPL integration via the SublimeREPL plugin, only work with version 2. There are some issues with nREPL at the moment, so use this fork until they can fix it in the main project (found via Github Issues): https://github.com/emestee/SublimeREPL ST has many things going for it: - Incredible customization via hundreds of plugins supported by a giant community - Brilliant plugin and customization system that puts Emacs to shame in terms of balance between power and usability - Fast. And faster launch times than Emacs Live - Beautiful UI with many different color schemes and themes available (note: themes are not the same thing as syntax color schemes. I recommend the Soda Dark theme with Monkai Soda coloring. - Built-in package manager for plugins, with the option to install plugins without using it too. - Organized settings that use the well known and very readable JSON format. You don't have code mixed with settings like you do with Emacs, and there is a standard place that everything is supposed to go, unlike the free-for-all nightmare that Emacs has. - There's a paredit plugin available for it if you care (I don't, and haven't used it). It's worth spending some time customizing Sublime Text, but the good news is that your time won't be spent in vain, and once you have it set up the way you like, there's no need to continue tinkering like crazy. 5. Conclusion ----------------- - Yes, IntelliJ is a very good IDE for Clojure development. - Sublime Text is better. :-) - Cross your fingers for Light Table Cheers, Greg -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA. On Jul 25, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Chris Gill <chrisfg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I find this interesting. I've been using light table mostly, but recently I > tried my hand at socket programming and light table flopped on this type of a > project. I ended up using lein repl for most of my work which became a pain > and now I'm looking at emacs with a slight kink in my lips. I'll have to try > eclipse for clojure out, I've only ever done android in eclipse. Do you think > something like an openGL project in clojure in eclipse with live-editing is a > possibility? I've mostly seen this kind of stuff in emacs but I feel like it > has less to do with emacs and more with nrepl and evaling.. > > -c > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:40:33 PM UTC-5, Timo Mihaljov wrote: > On 29.01.2013 16:32, Jay Fields wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Feng Shen <she...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have programming Clojure for almost 2 years, for a living. > >> > > > > This is probably an important part of what answer the OP is looking > > for. When I was doing Clojure for about 10% of my job IntelliJ was > > fine. Now that it's 90% of my job, I wouldn't be able to give up emacs > > go back to IntelliJ. > > > > If you're just looking at Clojure as a hobby and you already know > > IntelliJ, I wouldn't recommend switching. However, if you're going to > > be programming Clojure almost all of the time, I think emacs is the > > superior choice. > > > > For what it's worth, I switched from Emacs to Eclipse and > Counterclockwise for Clojure programming. Laurent's done an excellent > job with it, and I even prefer his take on paredit over Emacs's > original. I still use Emacs for everything else, but for Clojure I find > Counterclockwise to be "the superior choice". > > > -- > Timo > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >
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