tl;dr: why not at least *try* Counterclockwise before skipping it 'because of Eclipse'? You may find its editor with paredit shortcuts appealing. A full standalone Eclipse+Counterclockwise is available for your platform here: http://updatesite.ccw-ide.org/branch/master/master-travis000102-git75512b6843a242e2ab3c9f4057c42c884653b2ea/products/
I'm a bit sad when I read people don't want to try Counterclockwise just because they had a prior bad experience with Eclipse. Not even giving it a try, c'mon guys, please ;-) I have been working on the automation of build and delivery recently, and for instance giving it a try is as easy as: 1. download the standalone version for your OS from here: http://updatesite.ccw-ide.org/branch/master/master-travis000102-git75512b6843a242e2ab3c9f4057c42c884653b2ea/products/ (pretty stable version, stick to this link please) It's a big download, but you have everything included (Eclipse base + Counterclockwise + Leiningen + Eclipse Git ...) 2. Unzip into a directory named e.g. counterclockwise 3. Locate counterclockwise / counterclockwise.app / counterclockwise.exe depending on your platform, and start it ! Even if you still don't like the beast, some feedback on what you liked / disliked will always be appreciated since new viewpoints are generally challenging and interesting! Cheers, -- Laurent 2013/7/25 Ryan Stradling <ryanstradl...@gmail.com>: > I have used Vi, emacs, and IntelliJ for Clojure. > > I have used eclipse on non Clojure projects but it is not my default choice. > I typically choose IntelliJ over eclipse when that type of environment is > needed. > I had a very capable set-up in IntelliJ. There are still some issues with > the Clojure plugin especially if you are used to paredit. > I naturally gravitate towards Vi when choosing between emacs or Vi. > Vim-fireplace is really good if Vim is something you would like. > > Emacs though IMHO is still the best one out there of what I have tried. > With all the others, I feel that I miss the interactive REPL experience I > get with emacs. That, ergo-mode, and Caps Lock mapped to the ctrl key are > what brought me back to it. > > Daily I use emacs. When needed, I use IntelliJ. (For instance I was > writing a plug-in in Clojure for a Java application. I did not know the > Java application well at all and had a hard to find issue. I fired up > IntelliJ, and I was able to debug in Java and Clojure and found the issue > rather quickly.) > > > > > On Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:55:22 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: >> > >> > In October 2011, I decided to give Emacs another chance - specifically >> > for Clojure development - and that's what I use day-in, day-out. I >> > have a slightly customized setup but it really doesn't have much >> > beyond the starter kit, rainbow delimiters and autocompletion added. >> > It has a huge learning curve (nay, a _cliff_!) but it is hands down >> > the best Clojure environment (in my opinion - and about 70% of all >> > Clojure developers surveyed, according to Chas's surveys). >> > >> > Coming back to Emacs after about a 20 year break(!), I was surprised >> > to see it had only advanced to version 24 (in fact, back in October >> > 2011, 24 was only a preview build), and it took a fair bit of getting >> > used to (again). Since then, two of my team have also switched >> > full-time from ST2 to Emacs. The third does a lot of front end web dev >> > and finds ST2 easier to work with - but I suspect when she starts >> > doing Clojure / ClojureScript work, she'll switch too. >> >> For Sean or anyone who finds Sean's narrative compelling (I do), imagine >> emacs without the learning curve! I say it's possible and I point to the >> long-extinct FRED (Fred Resembles Emacs Deliberately) that was part of >> Macintosh Common Lisp as a proof of principle. I don't have the time or >> chops to develop such a thing, but if anyone here does then this would be a >> way to make the world a better place. >> >> -Lee >> > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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