2013/7/26 Colin Fleming <colin.mailingl...@gmail.com>: > Hi Laurent, > > Thanks for those links, I'll try the standalone version. I recently tried to > set up CCW, I got it running but several of the Paredit keybindings didn't > work for me and they didn't appear in the shortcut preferences either. I'm > definitely in the "have always hated Eclipse" camp but I'll give the > standalone version a try and let you know how I get on. If I have problems > I'll post them to the CCW list. > > Thanks for all the hard work, CCW has really come a long way!
Hi Colin, thanks for the kind words! If you're feeling a little bit more adventurous, you can also try the brand new feature I've been introducing this week: AutoShift! (tl;dr: fix indentation as you type) More on this (explanations, links, etc.) in this thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojuredev-users/F-gm5I5ZYUs/HZek6XA8u7MJ Also, please note that I'll be on holidays during August, so dont expect too quick a response ;-) > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On 26 July 2013 09:12, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> tl;dr: why not at least *try* Counterclockwise before skipping it >> 'because of Eclipse'? You may find its editor with paredit shortcuts >> appealing. A full standalone Eclipse+Counterclockwise is available for >> your platform here: >> >> http://updatesite.ccw-ide.org/branch/master/master-travis000102-git75512b6843a242e2ab3c9f4057c42c884653b2ea/products/ >> >> >> I'm a bit sad when I read people don't want to try Counterclockwise >> just because they had a prior bad experience with Eclipse. >> >> Not even giving it a try, c'mon guys, please ;-) >> >> I have been working on the automation of build and delivery recently, >> and for instance giving it a try is as easy as: >> >> 1. download the standalone version for your OS from here: >> >> >> http://updatesite.ccw-ide.org/branch/master/master-travis000102-git75512b6843a242e2ab3c9f4057c42c884653b2ea/products/ >> (pretty stable version, stick to this link please) >> >> It's a big download, but you have everything included (Eclipse base + >> Counterclockwise + Leiningen + Eclipse Git ...) >> >> 2. Unzip into a directory named e.g. counterclockwise >> >> 3. Locate counterclockwise / counterclockwise.app / >> counterclockwise.exe depending on your platform, and start it ! >> >> Even if you still don't like the beast, some feedback on what you >> liked / disliked will always be appreciated since new viewpoints are >> generally challenging and interesting! >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Laurent >> >> >> 2013/7/25 Ryan Stradling <ryanstradl...@gmail.com>: >> > I have used Vi, emacs, and IntelliJ for Clojure. >> > >> > I have used eclipse on non Clojure projects but it is not my default >> > choice. >> > I typically choose IntelliJ over eclipse when that type of environment >> > is >> > needed. >> > I had a very capable set-up in IntelliJ. There are still some issues >> > with >> > the Clojure plugin especially if you are used to paredit. >> > I naturally gravitate towards Vi when choosing between emacs or Vi. >> > Vim-fireplace is really good if Vim is something you would like. >> > >> > Emacs though IMHO is still the best one out there of what I have tried. >> > With all the others, I feel that I miss the interactive REPL experience >> > I >> > get with emacs. That, ergo-mode, and Caps Lock mapped to the ctrl key >> > are >> > what brought me back to it. >> > >> > Daily I use emacs. When needed, I use IntelliJ. (For instance I was >> > writing a plug-in in Clojure for a Java application. I did not know the >> > Java application well at all and had a hard to find issue. I fired up >> > IntelliJ, and I was able to debug in Java and Clojure and found the >> > issue >> > rather quickly.) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:55:22 PM UTC-4, Lee wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: >> >> > >> >> > In October 2011, I decided to give Emacs another chance - >> >> > specifically >> >> > for Clojure development - and that's what I use day-in, day-out. I >> >> > have a slightly customized setup but it really doesn't have much >> >> > beyond the starter kit, rainbow delimiters and autocompletion added. >> >> > It has a huge learning curve (nay, a _cliff_!) but it is hands down >> >> > the best Clojure environment (in my opinion - and about 70% of all >> >> > Clojure developers surveyed, according to Chas's surveys). >> >> > >> >> > Coming back to Emacs after about a 20 year break(!), I was surprised >> >> > to see it had only advanced to version 24 (in fact, back in October >> >> > 2011, 24 was only a preview build), and it took a fair bit of getting >> >> > used to (again). Since then, two of my team have also switched >> >> > full-time from ST2 to Emacs. The third does a lot of front end web >> >> > dev >> >> > and finds ST2 easier to work with - but I suspect when she starts >> >> > doing Clojure / ClojureScript work, she'll switch too. >> >> >> >> For Sean or anyone who finds Sean's narrative compelling (I do), >> >> imagine >> >> emacs without the learning curve! I say it's possible and I point to >> >> the >> >> long-extinct FRED (Fred Resembles Emacs Deliberately) that was part of >> >> Macintosh Common Lisp as a proof of principle. 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