here too but I pay the guys at Q9 to get things back on-line in 30 minutes ... so I can go on holidays :)
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I run web hosting as well so I hold my hand up. I have since 1998. > > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:35:51PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: > > We are talking about higher up the stack. We already have a free > > stack from boot loader, to kernel, to OS, to > > Apache/lighttpd/micro-httpd/mini-httpd/thttpd etc. We now need > > something on top of all that. We are also talking about something > > that a less technical user could plug into a wall socket and then > > start using. > > > > I already do this with Drupal. I run my own DNS servers, and control > > just about every part of the chain (I have a web hosting company > > hosting my Drupal instance, but I get a nightly backup at home, and > > could be up and running again in 30 minutes). Raise your hand if you > > too can do this. OK, now keep your hands up if you *want* to do all > > this work. Some days I just want it all to work. > > > > There is work being done in this space, but we are in the early days. > > Think kernel v0.5 era. > > > > We may also need an alternative to DNS, since that can currently be > messed with. > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Greg Saunders <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I kinda thought that but wouldn't a better way to solve this problem be > at > > > the protocol layer and not the infrastructure? > > > i.e. httpf or httpfs, smtpf, imapf, dnsf, etc. > > > I care more about my message (and communications) being "free" (as in > beer > > > and speech) than the hardware (and OS) it traversed. > > > So in a world where you had a mix of "free" and commercial > infrastructure > > > (which seems realistic), my "free" data (communication) would be routed > > > accordingly. > > > ??? > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > >> We are talking about building a free as in speech alternative to > facebook > > >> and twitter. We have the low cost hardware, we have a free as in > speech OS > > >> as well as a solid free (again as speech) stack on top of that. > > >> > > >> The problem was that the protests in the Arab world were largely > organised > > >> on Facebook and Twitter. These represent single points of failure and > > >> censorship. The idea is to have a federated, free and open solution > to > > >> replace this that can't be as easily taken down. Think Identi.ca but > for > > >> facebook. > > >> > > >> It is not just Facebook, there are all sorts of hosted (aka "cloud") > > >> solutions that we have little ultimate control over. It just makes > sense to > > >> have an open and federated alternative. There are a lot of pieces > already > > >> in the works, like Identi.ca and Feng office, and so on. There just > is no > > >> co-ordinated platform to compete with Google Apps/Google+, Facebook > etc. > > >> > > >> Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity. > > >> > > >> On Jul 5, 2011 2:15 PM, "Greg Saunders" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> clug-talk mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying >
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