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On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 04:52:00PM -0600, Mel Walters wrote: > I do not see any martyrdom at all, only some astute truth. > True for me too. Do not want to hire, do not want to do all the work > either, so unlike others here, my hand is down. > > Mel > > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 16:09 -0600, Greg Saunders wrote: > > <offline> > > > > > > Gustin, it's all about "the time and energy". If that's how you want > > to run you business and live your life, by all means, knock yourself > > out. But don't martyr yourself on the mailing list. Well of course you > > "can" but you don't have my sympathy ... I think that's what I was > > getting at :) > > > > > > </offline> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > OK, that is two of us. The point is that there are a handful > > of > > people who are capable, and an even smaller number who want to > > spend > > the time and energy. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I run web hosting as well so I hold my hand up. I have > > since 1998. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:35:51PM -0600, Gustin Johnson > > wrote: > > >> We are talking about higher up the stack. We already have > > a free > > >> stack from boot loader, to kernel, to OS, to > > >> Apache/lighttpd/micro-httpd/mini-httpd/thttpd etc. We now > > need > > >> something on top of all that. We are also talking about > > something > > >> that a less technical user could plug into a wall socket > > and then > > >> start using. > > >> > > >> I already do this with Drupal. I run my own DNS servers, > > and control > > >> just about every part of the chain (I have a web hosting > > company > > >> hosting my Drupal instance, but I get a nightly backup at > > home, and > > >> could be up and running again in 30 minutes). Raise your > > hand if you > > >> too can do this. OK, now keep your hands up if you *want* > > to do all > > >> this work. Some days I just want it all to work. > > >> > > >> There is work being done in this space, but we are in the > > early days. > > >> Think kernel v0.5 era. > > >> > > >> We may also need an alternative to DNS, since that can > > currently be messed with. > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Greg Saunders > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > I kinda thought that but wouldn't a better way to solve > > this problem be at > > >> > the protocol layer and not the infrastructure? > > >> > i.e. httpf or httpfs, smtpf, imapf, dnsf, etc. > > >> > I care more about my message (and communications) being > > "free" (as in beer > > >> > and speech) than the hardware (and OS) it traversed. > > >> > So in a world where you had a mix of "free" and > > commercial infrastructure > > >> > (which seems realistic), my "free" data (communication) > > would be routed > > >> > accordingly. > > >> > ??? > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Gustin Johnson > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> We are talking about building a free as in speech > > alternative to facebook > > >> >> and twitter. We have the low cost hardware, we have a > > free as in speech OS > > >> >> as well as a solid free (again as speech) stack on top > > of that. > > >> >> > > >> >> The problem was that the protests in the Arab world were > > largely organised > > >> >> on Facebook and Twitter. These represent single points > > of failure and > > >> >> censorship. The idea is to have a federated, free and > > open solution to > > >> >> replace this that can't be as easily taken down. Think > > Identi.ca but for > > >> >> facebook. > > >> >> > > >> >> It is not just Facebook, there are all sorts of hosted > > (aka "cloud") > > >> >> solutions that we have little ultimate control over. It > > just makes sense to > > >> >> have an open and federated alternative. There are a lot > > of pieces already > > >> >> in the works, like Identi.ca and Feng office, and so > > on. There just is no > > >> >> co-ordinated platform to compete with Google Apps/Google > > +, Facebook etc. > > >> >> > > >> >> Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Jul 5, 2011 2:15 PM, "Greg Saunders" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> clug-talk mailing list > > >> >> [email protected] > > >> >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >> >> Mailing List Guidelines > > (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >> >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > clug-talk mailing list > > >> > [email protected] > > >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >> > Mailing List Guidelines > > (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >> > **Please remove these lines when replying > > >> > > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> clug-talk mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
