Http://www.xagyl.com is where I have bought my Alix boards.
Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity. On Jul 5, 2011 5:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > BTW I would like to buy an Alix. If others are interested we should place a group order. Can you forward where you got it? > > I'm looking into the nettalk www.nettalk.com $69 > > This looks good. Just hang it on the LAN and give it an IP address. > > > They _also_ must have a POTS interface which we need because anything we do will require the ability to call grandma and allow grandma to call grandkids. > > Apparently one can take something OOMA and connect it in your car for free cell phone service. One commenter said he does it. It must be that he has a data account with a telco. One would think any wifi connection would suffice for either OOMA or NETTALK. > > > > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 05:05:10PM -0600, Gustin Johnson wrote: >> Look in to Askosia. More of a turn key solution. You can run it on >> your own hardware (including my beloved Alix machines) or buy the >> appliance from them for more business oriented clients. >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > OOMA post in ubuntuforums. $169 for free unlimited cell phone service if you have a modem. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 04:52:00PM -0600, Mel Walters wrote: >> >> I do not see any martyrdom at all, only some astute truth. >> >> True for me too. Do not want to hire, do not want to do all the work >> >> either, so unlike others here, my hand is down. >> >> >> >> Mel >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 16:09 -0600, Greg Saunders wrote: >> >> > <offline> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Gustin, it's all about "the time and energy". If that's how you want >> >> > to run you business and live your life, by all means, knock yourself >> >> > out. But don't martyr yourself on the mailing list. Well of course you >> >> > "can" but you don't have my sympathy ... I think that's what I was >> >> > getting at :) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > </offline> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > OK, that is two of us. The point is that there are a handful >> >> > of >> >> > people who are capable, and an even smaller number who want to >> >> > spend >> >> > the time and energy. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I run web hosting as well so I hold my hand up. I have >> >> > since 1998. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 03:35:51PM -0600, Gustin Johnson >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> We are talking about higher up the stack. We already have >> >> > a free >> >> > >> stack from boot loader, to kernel, to OS, to >> >> > >> Apache/lighttpd/micro-httpd/mini-httpd/thttpd etc. We now >> >> > need >> >> > >> something on top of all that. We are also talking about >> >> > something >> >> > >> that a less technical user could plug into a wall socket >> >> > and then >> >> > >> start using. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I already do this with Drupal. I run my own DNS servers, >> >> > and control >> >> > >> just about every part of the chain (I have a web hosting >> >> > company >> >> > >> hosting my Drupal instance, but I get a nightly backup at >> >> > home, and >> >> > >> could be up and running again in 30 minutes). Raise your >> >> > hand if you >> >> > >> too can do this. OK, now keep your hands up if you *want* >> >> > to do all >> >> > >> this work. Some days I just want it all to work. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> There is work being done in this space, but we are in the >> >> > early days. >> >> > >> Think kernel v0.5 era. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> We may also need an alternative to DNS, since that can >> >> > currently be messed with. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Greg Saunders >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > I kinda thought that but wouldn't a better way to solve >> >> > this problem be at >> >> > >> > the protocol layer and not the infrastructure? >> >> > >> > i.e. httpf or httpfs, smtpf, imapf, dnsf, etc. >> >> > >> > I care more about my message (and communications) being >> >> > "free" (as in beer >> >> > >> > and speech) than the hardware (and OS) it traversed. >> >> > >> > So in a world where you had a mix of "free" and >> >> > commercial infrastructure >> >> > >> > (which seems realistic), my "free" data (communication) >> >> > would be routed >> >> > >> > accordingly. >> >> > >> > ??? >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Gustin Johnson >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> We are talking about building a free as in speech >> >> > alternative to facebook >> >> > >> >> and twitter. We have the low cost hardware, we have a >> >> > free as in speech OS >> >> > >> >> as well as a solid free (again as speech) stack on top >> >> > of that. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> The problem was that the protests in the Arab world were >> >> > largely organised >> >> > >> >> on Facebook and Twitter. These represent single points >> >> > of failure and >> >> > >> >> censorship. The idea is to have a federated, free and >> >> > open solution to >> >> > >> >> replace this that can't be as easily taken down. Think >> >> > Identi.ca but for >> >> > >> >> facebook. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> It is not just Facebook, there are all sorts of hosted >> >> > (aka "cloud") >> >> > >> >> solutions that we have little ultimate control over. It >> >> > just makes sense to >> >> > >> >> have an open and federated alternative. There are a lot >> >> > of pieces already >> >> > >> >> in the works, like Identi.ca and Feng office, and so >> >> > on. There just is no >> >> > >> >> co-ordinated platform to compete with Google Apps/Google >> >> > +, Facebook etc. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> Sent from my Android device. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> On Jul 5, 2011 2:15 PM, "Greg Saunders" < [email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > >> >> clug-talk mailing list >> >> > >> >> [email protected] >> >> > >> >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > >> >> Mailing List Guidelines >> >> > (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> > >> >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > >> > clug-talk mailing list >> >> > >> > [email protected] >> >> > >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > >> > Mailing List Guidelines >> >> > (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> > >> > **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > >> clug-talk mailing list >> >> > >> [email protected] >> >> > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php ) >> >> > >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> > > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > clug-talk mailing list >> >> > > [email protected] >> >> > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> > > **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > clug-talk mailing list >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> > **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > clug-talk mailing list >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> > **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> clug-talk mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> >> **Please remove these lines when replying >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > clug-talk mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> > **Please remove these lines when replying >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying
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