Hi Beth and so sorry about your liver enzymes.  I hope you do good on your time 
off.  I never do As my blood counts zoar when not kept in check. 
I am in my 7th month of ponatinib.   
Hang in there warrior.  

My Motto: Faith and Pills
Jeanie 🐟🐟18,s 
Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna  9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib January 2015
Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center

> On Jul 25, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Beth,
> I think these TKIs are so new that they do not fully know all the side 
> effects, and especially not the long term ones.  We are confident in his 
> doctor and he is watching it closely.  Have you reached "undetectable" on 
> your low dose of tasigna?  
>          Thanks for your good thoughts.
>                 Joyce in IL
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 10:36 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joyce, I am so glad that your husband's CML numbers are going in the 
>> right direction. The cml journey is often a balancing act, between the right 
>> dosage and side effects...Maybe your husband could be on 150 of busutinif 
>> with time??? It seems that 200 put him close to remission. I had to go off 
>> tasigna because of elevated liver enzymes, 10 X normal. Going off the med 
>> for a short time to give the liver a rest, and then using  the lowest 
>> possible successful dosage...seems to work for some people. I hope your 
>> husband's liver calms down. I will keep my fingers crossed. 18's Beth
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net>
>> To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 24, 2015 7:50 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] New results
>> 
>> Jeanie,
>> I know you have been dealing with that pain for a long time.  Medicine has 
>> come so far and yet the Good Lord holds some secrets from us.  I hope in 
>> Sept they will get a clue as to the pain's cause.
>>          Joyce in IL
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 11:20 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope wrote:
>> 
>> Just wanted to say that I take OTC pain killers and have tried prescription 
>> ones. I have a right side pain that won't go away and they can't find out 
>> what it is. Nothing seems to help the pain.   
>> They are doing a ct scan in Sept to see if they can find it but they have 
>> already done that with no luck.  Blessings  
>> 
>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>> Jeanie \uD83D\uDC1F\uD83D\uDC1F18,s 
>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2015, at 12:14 PM, "'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope" < 
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Hi Joyce. 
>> It looks like your liver counts are 1-10% common to increase on that drug.  
>> Read the information that comes with the meds.   Read the whole document 
>> through. 
>> They will stabilize as well as other side effects.  
>> It seems I will go from one side effect to another as time passes. 
>> Fight on.  Good luck. 
>> 
>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>> Jeanie \uD83D\uDC1F\uD83D\uDC1F18,s 
>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 11:43 PM, Joyce Mesnarich < joy...@htc.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> Jeanie,
>> Thanks for your interest and suggestion.  We have gone over all his other 
>> meds with doctors and nothing should affect the liver.  He doesn't take any 
>> OVC pain meds, or any pain meds.  And he does not drink alcohol.  The 
>> primary doctor says that the drug information for bosulif says it can cause 
>> liver problems, but Dr Talpaz is less certain of that and he is the 
>> specialist.  He says he is watching it closely and I guess we will just 
>> trust him.  Wayne is getting blood tests every other week locally and they 
>> are sent to Dr Talpaz.  The liver enzyme levels seem to have stabilized, 
>> although they are elevated.  As you say, faith and pills.  One of Wayne's 
>> mottos is "Better living through chemistry".  LOL  I think that used to be 
>> part of a TV ad for a large chemical company, maybe Du Pont or Monsanto.
>> 
>>               Joyce in IL
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2015, at 11:32 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope wrote:
>> 
>> Be careful with his diet.  Ovc pain pills hurt the liver as well as other 
>> drugs we take.  Ask your pharmacy if any other drugs he take are hurting his 
>> liver.  It's hard but maybe they can figure out something. 
>> Good luck.  
>> 
>> My Motto: Faith and Pills
>> Jeanie \uD83D\uDC1F\uD83D\uDC1F18,s 
>> Dx 1/2004. CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna  9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib January 2015
>> Dr Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2015, at 2:01 PM, lrc lrc < kneesrb...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Joyce does he drink alcohol?
>>> On Jul 22, 2015 1:43 PM, "margood18 via CMLHope" < 
>>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>>> Joyce, so glad to hear that your husband's PCR is lower and I hope that his 
>>> liver function will steady.  Best wishes to both of you.
>>> 
>>> Marcie 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Joyce Mesnarich < joy...@htc.net> 
>>> To: cmlhope < cmlhope@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2015 12:16 pm 
>>> Subject: [CMLHope] New results 
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.  I have not had time to contribute for awhile.  But I must 
>>> let
>>> you all know the results of my husband's PCR at his last visit to Dr 
>>> Talpaz.  He
>>> was taken off Sprycel due to pleural effusion and we were hoping his
>>> undetectable would hold....but it did not.  He was subsequently put on 
>>> bosulif
>>> and not showing much improvement after 3 months.  So his dosage was changed 
>>> from
>>> 100 mg to 200 mg.  And now, after 3 more months, his PCR went from 8.7 to
>>> 0.127!!  Hopefully in another 3 months he will once again reach
>>> undetectable.
>>> 
>>> The downside of his test results is that the liver function
>>> tests have increased a lot.  The doctor will not really say that bosulif is 
>>> to
>>> blame, but nothing else has changed.  Has anyone of you CML warriors had any
>>> problems with the liver while on TKI's?  Was there any treatment to help the
>>> liver?
>>> 
>>> God bless you all.
>>> 
>>>             Joyce in IL
>>> 
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