We have a pair of foldable cleats on our 33-ll and the have worked well for us, 
and we need them for our slip. To me the hull deck join is one of the stronger 
sections of the board, and most of the load is almost parallel to the hull. 
We’ve had no issues in 10+ years of use, and my sister has them on her 30 with 
similar results.

I would not use them to tie off with the line at a right angle to thr hull 
though.

Paul

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From: 30131624100n behalf of
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 11:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John Conklin
Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Tie off

On My 1982 37 I have only  bow and stern cleats. There is  no place except the 
Toe rail to tie My fore and aft spring lines. And I need them  on my docking 
situation.
Question - Is this fine to do tie off direct to toe rail with clip of Carabiner 
? and what are the methods of attachment? How about Cafe?
 Do the Toe Rail cleats ( foldable)  they sell work ? or what about the or the 
cleat for the genoa track ? is this worth the price? Any other thoughts ideas 
are welcome
THANKS !

John Conklin
s/v Halcyon
Oriental NC

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