Great ! Is the west Marine Foldable the same as the HMP ? I will be using for 
My slip only and only for spring lines. I would like to do the X Cross on the 
stern lines ( about 10 ft from Pile) to minimize side to side  But that leaves 
the spring to do the work  fore and aft motion.   If I need lateral (side) tie 
will go direct to rail  and will  use several contact points on the toe rail

John Conklin
Flirting with Fire
www.flirtingwithfire.net<http://www.flirtingwithfire.net>


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Robert; do you dock in a marina? Is there current or other force on the cleat?  
What other lines are you using in addition to the rail mount cleat? Thanks
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255


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Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Tie off

John
I have been using the toe rail SS folding cleats for 12 years now for spring 
lines.....works perfectly.....several other club members have seen mine and 
have done the same.....one is a Landfall 38.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=toe+rail+SS+folding+cleat&id=A13BB30600D9BFE60B70A3FDB62555C82CBA58FA&FORM=IQFRBA<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2Fimages%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dtoe%2Brail%2BSS%2Bfolding%2Bcleat%26id%3DA13BB30600D9BFE60B70A3FDB62555C82CBA58FA%26FORM%3DIQFRBA&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cea3ad9d5fc744858c30208d5d5eee955%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636650144443275707&sdata=cAM4FCVLnEajfGbSHabG%2Bs4tOmexnypNqWEAm1CaoP8%3D&reserved=0>

I leave the spring lines on the dock, connect and disconnect with a 
Carabiner(s).

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2018-06-19 12:26 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List wrote:
On My 1982 37 I have only  bow and stern cleats. There is  no place except the 
Toe rail to tie My fore and aft spring lines. And I needthem  on my docking 
situation.
Question - Is this fine to do tie off direct to toe rail with clip of Carabiner 
? and what are the methods of attachment? How about Cafe?
 Do the Toe Rail cleats ( foldable)  they sell work ? or what about the or the 
cleat for the genoa track ? is this worth the price? Any other thoughts ideas 
are welcome
THANKS !

John Conklin
s/v Halcyon
Oriental NC




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