Richard, So you use the SS Folding Cleat Just for In and out? and Tie off with a carabiner on the toe rail when you leave ?
John Conklin From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:49:32 AM To: bushma...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Tie off Richard, Yes, I am on a slip at the marina.....as previously mentioned, I leave both fore and aft spring lines on the slip. I use a bow line and a stern line.....they come with me when I leave the slip....the stern line is the exact length when docked with the bitter end on a stern deck cleat with a loop that goes over the cleat on the slip....it just lays folded a bit on the deck when sailing. The bow line is, I think, 20' or 25' and comes with me also.....when leaving the slip I bring the bow line back to the toe rail SS cleat and tie it there.....it stays there when sailing.....when docking it can be used to control the boat as you have a line from the bow over half the length back to grab. When the bow is tied to the deck cleat, the extra line goes back to a forward stanchion but doesn't do anything...I just tie it there so it is out of the way. The port bow line to keep the boat off the slip when docked comes with me also....I just fold it up and lay it on the bow roller. Because I am usually alone, when docking I have rigged a snubber on a line that the inboard end goes over the main winch and when I step off the boat through the gate unto the slip/dock, I simply drop the loop on the slip/dock cleat and the boat, with its forward motion, glides into the slip. I have this line just the right length so that the bow is several feet from hitting the dock forward......the snubber cushions the shock of stopping the forward motion of the boat. When sailing and at the dock, I keep the snubber line in the propane locker which I don't keep propane in but everything else it seems. Depending the wind, tide conditions all the other lines then get attached as the situation dictates.....the fore and aft spring lines are connected with Carabiners. My boat has been through all kinds of extremeweather at the slip with no issues using the toe rail SS cleats. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2018-06-19 11:13 AM, bushma...@aol.com<mailto:bushma...@aol.com> wrote: Robert; do you dock in a marina? Is there current or other force on the cleat? What other lines are you using in addition to the rail mount cleat? Thanks Richard s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com><mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com><mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca><mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca> Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 8:46 am Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Tie off John I have been using the toe rail SS folding cleats for 12 years now for spring lines.....works perfectly.....several other club members have seen mine and have done the same.....one is a Landfall 38. https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=toe+rail+SS+folding+cleat&id=A13BB30600D9BFE60B70A3FDB62555C82CBA58FA&FORM=IQFRBA I leave the spring lines on the dock, connect and disconnect with a Carabiner(s). Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2018-06-19 12:26 AM, John Conklin via CnC-List wrote: On My 1982 37 I have only bow and stern cleats. There is no place except the Toe rail to tie My fore and aft spring lines. And I needthem on my docking situation. Question - Is this fine to do tie off direct to toe rail with clip of Carabiner ? and what are the methods of attachment? How about Cafe? Do the Toe Rail cleats ( foldable) they sell work ? or what about the or the cleat for the genoa track ? is this worth the price? Any other thoughts ideas are welcome THANKS ! John Conklin s/v Halcyon Oriental NC _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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