Heated agreement.  Any wiggle and that keel is being dropped and properly 
re-bedded.   IMHO elongation of bolt holes has occurred and will only get worse.

From: dwight veinot via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 11:21 AM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: 25 MKII - Smiling?

I would say none is closer to normal. I have a 1974 C&C 35. Never saw its keel 
wiggle lifted out of the water in fall and put back in the water every spring.

On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 9:13 AM Julian Norris via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I also noticed that the keel on my 30 MKII wiggled alarming during lift out 
this year. Our club lifts as a group with a crane with very long straps. It was 
very windy so the straps were vibrating in the breeze (gale?) which transferred 
to the hull and caused the keel to wiggle. In my case I believe the fibreglass 
keel stub was flexing, not the joint at the keel bolts. After being alarmed by 
this on my boat I paid closer attention to the subsequent boats coming out and 
observed that some of those wiggled too but not to the same degree as mine. I 
have inspected the structure around the bilge to the extent that it’s visible 
and don’t see any issues. I’m very interested in hearing opinions from this 
list about how much keel movement is normal.

Julian Norris
C&C 30-2
Halifax, N.S.
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On Jan 2, 2022, at 3:32 PM, Stephen Kidd via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Happy New Year! We're hoping to get some insights on an issue we are having 
with our keel. We recently had our 25 MKII hauled for some winter projects and 
were surprised to see that the keel "wiggled" when the boat was on the travel 
lift, a little bit laterally.

I've uploaded some photos of the keel and the keel 
bolts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphotos.app.goo.gl%2FTVsmhMAwwJUQEEee8&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2d995608f0bd48c5388a08d9ced50e1a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637768236726711422%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XnHD48Tw0rc%2Byg4TBnoenouzlxxd%2BCQNQ%2B%2BSL51vafA%3D&reserved=0>.
 Here are some observations:
1) No signs of weeping from the keel joint and no visible separation when 
lifted from the stands.
2) None of the keel bolts (3 in total) leak.
3) Crack at the aft end doesn't look typical of the C&C smile based on internet 
searches.

Should we torque the keel bolts, grind out the crack, fill (G-flex?), fair, and 
paint, or is this beyond a "smile" fix?

Thanks!
Stephen



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