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Niclas Hedhman wrote:

|On Tuesday 21 September 2004 18:00, Ross Gardler wrote:
|
|>To be honest I feel that the need for the ASF to make a "case for it" is
|>in itself quite insulting. They (Genuitec) even have the names of some
|>ASF projects on their home page. Yet a search of their site for "Apache"
|>only reveals a couple of forum threads.
|
|
|+1.
|Companies who doesn't recognize their dependency and cost-savings due
to OSS
|in general and ASF in particular, are outright arrogant and should
not be
|entertained.
|I think ASF folks could query a lot of companies for development
tools, and
|most would grant without any motivations from ASF. Although I think ASF
|should establish a separate "Donation Policy" for development tools,
and any
|company that does an ASF-wide donation of tools, will get listed on a
|'Tools-thankyou' page.
|
|Cheers
|Niclas

"Placement" in the ASF is a tough issue. I would say that, while
trying to donate licenses to the ASF is always welcome, the marketing
implications of it are up to the PRC and Board. This is my opinion, of
course.

I think the problem here is that you spoke with a commercial, instead
of a marketdroid. People in marketing should recognize the value,
unless they thrive on clients ignorant about Open Source and projects
like Eclipse. In this case, being associated with Apache would be like
talking about the Emperor's new clothes, which we are doing here, BTW.

Regards
Santiago
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