Mike > Only your misunformation on this one. I doubt when he > mentions single payer federal system he is talking > about just Illinois.
> I dont get why the lefties dont want to admit this is > the goal, what are they afraid of? It's very difficult > to have any real discourse when facts are so easily > shoved aside. All you have to do is listen to Obama and > others who represent him. Admitting this is the goal > would mean we could have an honest conversation about > the merits or lack of with this kind of system. We are > entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts. What goal? I personally would prefer a single payer, government/non-profit organization based health insurance. Why? Commercial insurance typically has share holders and share holders want profits. Profits are insurance premiums minus insurance disbursements, if a person becomes a patient that will cost the insurance company money, the insurance company will find a way to delay any procedure. Refer to the high school girl in Arizona(?) that needed a liver transplant, the insurance company said the procedure was "experimental" and declined the procedure. The case attracted attention, eventually the insurance company okayed the surgery, unfortunately the girl died a couple of hours (?days?) after the "okay". I'm sure the insurance company was glad they "saved" the money. Bill Moyers had a show about the topic with a person who was a "whistle blower", look up Wendell Potter. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly We all live in a yellow subroutine. ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
