Luca Berra wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 01:20:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:55:18PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: >> >>> >>> yes and you get mail for mister rpcuser actually delivered :( >> >>Which can easily be prevented, especially when using courier+ldap. > > I was only meaning that /etc/passwd != list of mailboxes, sorry if i > sounded harsh.
Sure, Cyrus keeps them seperate, but there's no reason we can't make sure to have it add a cyrus user when we add a unix user. There's no reason Cyrus *has* to be more difficult uw-imap. We should be able to switch to the better IMAP server by default, without making things more difficult. >>>>> By taking advantage of an LDAP environment, and using PAM, if I >>>>> create an LDAP account, virtually everything else can be done >>>>> automagically. /home directory can be created, samba shares can be >>>>> created & assigned (although I haven't gotten that far yet). >>> >>> you can script user/mailbox creation at the same time you script >>> addictional activities dealing with user creation/renaming/removal. >> >>Why should the admin *need* to script things to make it a viable solution? >>Sure, being able to script things is nice, but the fact that you need to >>script things is what currently prevents many people from implementing >>Linux instead of Windows! > > only because noone has already scripted for him something that is > functional?, I am positive m$ exchange does not auto create a mailbox > for every user on windows system, but probably the mailbox creation > wizard is able to create a system user, not sure tough. We don't need to use Windows as our model either. We can do better. >>> auto mailbox creation may only solve creation, but does not deal with >>> removal or renaming. >>> >>> IMHO this should be in a user administration frontend, not in an imap >>> daemon. > >>IMHO, if it's not accessible in Mandrake Control Center (or whatever will >>be the server configuration equivalent of it), we need to ensure that a >>newbie admin would easily find what needs to be done. > A newbie admin should leave cyrus alone[*]. It is not even in main. And I That is the wrong attitude. > am not sure autocreation of mailboxes on post is a help to newbie > admins. see my point above for mr. rpcuser, and if mr. newbie admin has > a hope of finding and removing mr. rpcuser mailbox in /var/mail, it > doesn't have a chance of ever realizing what is eating disk-space on a > cyrus installation. > > [*] at least until someone writes an admin tool for it. > >>Windows didn't get their market share by making things difficult for the >>user, and making something easy to use doesn't make it less stable or >>insecure (as long as it's done the right way). > Agreed. But windows chose the less-stable way :) > >>Maybe we need to start working pro-actively on what the config tools for >>each service should be capable of doing, so we can be sure libconf will >>address it ... > Agreed. >
