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Will, You have some good and possible ideas. Did not think of rubber bullets. The heavier door or a necessity, I think. These terrorist most likely know as much as anyone about the layout and structure of our aircraft. Bob Parker Mena, AR. ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: RE: [COUPERS] Regulatioms | ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- | | I kind of like the idea of arming them. Rubber bullets are fatal in close | quarters and will not likely penetrate anything that could cause | depressurization. Even if they aren't fatal a shot to the face will | incapacitate them. Tasers are another possibility. But, then again you | have to worry about the terrorists and their weapons. A trained sky marshal | will know when and when not to use his weapon. Pilots could also be trained | to lower their altitude if at all possible. I also like Leslie's idea about | arming pilots, but there needs to be some thought in how to do it. You | don't want their guns to be added to the arsenal that the terrorist is able | to get access to on a plane. Incidentally Leslie, loved the letter to the | editor in the September issue of Flying! I also think Wayne's suggestion of | the steel reinforced doors is a must. They may even want to install | videocom between the cockpit and cabin to allow conversations between the | crew and pilots without opening the door. An SOP should be implemented to | keep the door closed from the beginning until the end of the flight. It | should be treated as a secure area. It would also allow the crew to see who | they are talking to. Now, I'm sure all these measures can be overcome, but | I can guarantee that it will create a bit of a deterrence. Hijackers seem | to always look for the easy targets. The goals is simply to not make it so | easy. | | Will | N99036 | | -----Original Message----- | From: rparker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:24 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: [COUPERS] Regulatioms | | ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any | advice in this forum.]---- | | Guns and pressurized aircraft do not mix whether in a sky-marshal's hand or | a crew members hand. It brings to mind an incident in a B-29, not in a war | zone. The gunsight was bolted into the plexiglass shelf with 5/16th bolts, | the gunner's seat to the floor with 3/8th bolts. A crack came into the | plexiglass sight port and the pressurization blew it out. The gun-sight, the | gunner and seat was pulled from the airplane and anything loose in the | central gunner compartment was | sucked out the hole. The smallest hole in a pressurized compartment will | open the airplane up like a can opener. The martial arts thing would be the | best bet, but then the terrorist has to be close enough for that to work. | Bob Parker | Mena, AR. | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "N161LH 3B9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:11 AM | Subject: Re: [COUPERS] Regulatioms | | | | ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any | advice in this forum.]---- | | | | I agree with you, Wayne. I'm happy to hear that the armed sky marshalls | | will likely be back, but I'd like to know why there isn't a steel | reinforced | | door to the cockpit. I also think the pilot and first officer should | carry | | side arms. If there's unauthorized personnel in the cockpit, shoot | | (carefully, of course) first and ask questions later. The responsibility | is | | too great. | | | | Leslie Holbrook | | Alon A2 N161LH (Flying Colors #1) | | Chester, CT 3B9 | | | | | | | | >From: Wayne Woollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | >Subject: [COUPERS] Regulatioms | | >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:23:59 -0700 | | > | | >----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any | | >advice in this forum.]---- | | > | | >Looking over the list of new security regulations for Airports, | | >and Transport Category aircraft illuminates a couple of facts. If | | >all these new regulations had been implemented prior to the | | >tragedy, the outcome would have been the same! The most dastardly | | >part of the deed prior to taking over the cockpits of these | | >commercial aircraft through flimsy aluminum doors, was buying a | | >ticket! | | >I abhor the results of what was done, but lets be realistic, lets | | >treat the solution not the symptom. | | > | | >D. Wayne Woollard | | > | | >-- | | >Mr. D. Wayne Woollard, CPBE | | >AIM: DWWoollard | | >ICQ: 124132836 | | > | | >"Why fly a Spam can when you can have fun and fly an Ercoupe?" | | > | | > | | | | | | _________________________________________________________________ | | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ==^================================================================ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiLm.aVzvvT Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
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