Al Sparber wrote: > From: "Gunlaug Sørtun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> The bottom line is that em-based dimensions doesn't have to fight >> visitors preferences and available browser-options. Em-based >> dimensions can be used intelligently within the framework of >> improved usability for all visitors. > > > I agree, except I think perhaps our definitions of what's intelligent > use is different ;-) Here is my take on intelligent and "useful" use > of ems: > http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/tbm/demos/design_grunge.htm > > You probably think it's broken, right :-) In Firefox: yes, completely broken by design ;-) It is fighting user-preferences, and Firefox doesn't have any real defenses. Think I'll have to give it some... In Opera: working just fine down to around 300px window-width, but that navigation becomes less user-friendly. Nice linear look on narrow windows. Not well prepared for smaller screens - yet..? --- On the "intelligent" part... I think we can live with those differences - see: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought> --- BTW: your description of Roger's site is what makes it work, IMO. On wide browser-windows it will keep proportions. I have tested it to 3800 window-width, which is the space needed for around 500% text-zoom and em-based width. Suits me just fine. On narrow windows it will respect both _my_ font-size and _my_ window-width, and "forget" everything about proportions. I think he must have applied that width-method with visitors in mind :-) (I have no idea what Roger is "fixing" at the moment. I have parts of his site in an Opera-tab from earlier today, since Opera is a pretty aggressive "down-loader" by default.) regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/