Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: > >> I won't get into what my goals are in general -- that's irrelevant -- >> but I will say that I agree completely with Al's point: you >> completely defeat the purpose of using ems for widths if #2 is one of >> your goals. Again, there's nothing wrong with goal #2, but it has >> nothing to do with ems. > > > I think you have missed the original question somehow. Since that > question was about using ems for dimensioning, then that's what > responses should focus on.
I agree, which is why your suggestions to use percentages to keep the design within the horizontal constraints of the window were off-base, not mine. As I have explained, this goal of "no horizontal scrollbars" is incompatible with the goal of em-based layouts (preserving proportions for optimal readability). > However, a well-working "catch all" solution should also be presented, > since there is one. I don't think that has gotten through yet. How does your solution "catch all"? It does not meet goal #3 that I stated in my last email, which is to preserve proportions. There is not a catch all, as there never is in web design. You choose your goals, and by doing so, reject other goals. > Maybe better read up on how ems can be used, while avoiding horizontal > scroll-bars and off-screen content... > <http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200504/fixed_or_fluid_width_elastic/> > > ...and you can even test its proportional qualities if you have wide > enough screens. I'm very familiar with using ems for layout. I've used them myself in a couple different sites and written articles about their use for Community MX. However, I disagree with yourself and Roger of 456 Berea Street that they should be combined with percentages to prevent horizontal scrollbars. Doing such completely defeats their purpose, as Al and I have tried to explain. Zoe -- Zoe M. Gillenwater Design Services Manager UNC Highway Safety Research Center http://www.hsrc.unc.edu ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/