Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: >>I'll definitely second Georg here, em scaling is best when used to keep >>content inside the window on at least one axis (and, just for "tradition >>keeps the customer"'s sake - make that the horizontal axis :-) ) > > I'm sorry, but I don't understand how em-based widths have anything to > do with preventing horizontal scrollbars. It seems as if you and Georg > want the following conditions to be met: > > 1. Text scales with the user's preferences. > 2. All content fits horizontally on the page. > > #1 is accomplished by setting font sizes in a relative unit. > #2 is accomplished by setting the width of a container in a percentage.
So right and true, and exactly where I stand in this debate. I will gladly listen and learn when others present me with good arguments about how to overcome the trouble of double scrollbars, and by now I do certainly accept that some prefer these (even if it's hard to understand exept if one uses 400%+ zoom, in which case I think the use is so specialised that it is reasonable to use the browser that can do so as one whishes, namely Opera). > So what do either of your goals have to do with em-based design? The > point of using ems is: > > 3. To keep proportions of page elements the same so that line lengths > remain the same (to keep them readable). Sorry, but - _the_ point? I thought it was just one of the possible advantages. The thread began with a question about when to use em and when to use percentages, and whether it could be reasonable to use ems throughout. It obviously _can_ be, depending on the overall design and the preferences of the user. Perhaps we should develop this further, to get a vocabulary for giving the user the choice of stylesheets with "full scalability in the page design" (meaning em design where the page-setup follows the font-size) VS "Text scaling with one scrollbar only garanteed" instead of the relatively poor "small - medium - big" style sheet that is currently available in some sites. Best regards Jesper Brunholm ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
