On 8/28/2009 3:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Now that I think about it, I don't really know what the font situation
>> on Mac OS is, either. Should probably do a bit of looking into that.
>>      
> I did a fresh Tiger install last week, and immediately updated to 10.4.11. I
> installed no other software except for SeaMonkey 1.1.7&  Firefox 3.5.2. This
> left me with 100% of the M$ web fonts installed.
>    
Was that a tyop, or are you saying that either Apple or Mozilla are 
including the M$ web fonts?


> With browsers other than IE, specifying
> only a generic will allow the visitor to see used whatever his defaults are
> set to. With IE, specifying only generics will allow the visitor to see the
> defaults M$ hard-coded into the browser: Courier new for monospace, Times New
> Roman for serif, and Arial for sans-serif. Safari (v4.0.3 at least) will use
> its user-selectable monospace default if the requested font(s) are not
> available, same as the Geckos, but when the requested serif or sans-serif
> fonts are not available, it will supply the user-selectable default
> proportional, regardless whether that default is a serif or a sans-serif, and
> regardless whether the requested type of font is a serif or a sans-serif.
>
> http://fm.no-ip.com/auth/Font/fonts-face-samples-cdef.html might be useful in
> confirming for yourself.
>
> Note too that anytime Helvetica is requested on Windows, it is treated as if
> the request had been for Arial, which means all the following on Windows
> render identically:
>
> font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif
> font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif
> font-family: helvetica, sans-serif
> font-family: helvetica, 'lucida sans unicode', 'trebuchet ms', sans-serif
> font-family: sans-serif
>    
Some of that I knew, but the rest of it was informative.


>> What tool are you using for the analysis?
>>      
> My eyes? What analysis?
>    
Whatever produced that interesting looking screen-cap you posted, 
overlaid on my page.  =]

Best,

  michael

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