Thanks David, and I concur. It would seem to be that people believe what they want to
believe and give much greater weight to ideas that they have a vested interest in. I
do the same thing myself, and know it is universal. We could all do with getting
behind things and down to the nitty gritty as it were.
On Mon, 05 June 2000, David Sutherland wrote:
>
> C'mon NICK you can't be SERIOUS about all this ET UFO B.S. - these guys are
> tools - mostly book and video salesman!!!
>
> "Conspiracy Theory" and all its associated trappings (UFO's, ETs,
> Abductions, etc) is now as much a political TOOL as everything else is.
>
> I mean, if many of these ex-secret intel or otherwise UFO 'exposers' and
> supposed 'researchers' were what they claim to be - would it be THAT
> difficult to "slience" these clowns if the so-called near omnipotent "black"
> government, or whatever agency is supposed to 'hush' all this nonsense up,
> is really extant?
>
> Its pure religio-political propoganda, religio - because in many cases you
> will find all sorts of esoteric mumbo jumbo and 'spiritual' twadde and
> hysteria associated with many of these beliefs if ETs, Abductions, UFO's,
> and et al. To what purpose is this propoganda however, would be a far more
> interesting and profuitable exercise and use of time imho.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicky Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tenebroust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > .>> Since there is no real evidence for it, we must just look at it all
> as
> > speculation by "army officer X", or some "covert warrior" who now wants to
> > come clean, etc.
> >
> > Well tenebroust, I guess the reason Commander X, Branton etc use non de
> > plumes is because are in danger of their lives. I think anybody who just
> > comes right out like fool with their name, rank and serial number and
> starts
> > spouting off about the alien treaties the US govt has made with ets,
> really
> > wouldn't have that much to say. They were intelligence officers and we
> don't
> > really need to know their personal details. Other intelligence officers
> can
> > know if they are speaking the truth or not and then it spreads from
> > there.The information they present us with is generally self evident,
> > because of a consistancy that others keep verifying, that they do have
> > experience in inside covert operations. There are photos and documents in
> > these books.
>
>
> > Who are you? Why do you use a silly name? We don't know what country you
> are
> > from, which gender, or how old you are, yet you want respect and to be
> > listened to merely because your typed letters appear in our inboxes. Tell
> > me why you personally don't give us your full name, address, ICQ number,
> CV,
> > recent photo, race and blood type and birthdate. I'd like to know that
> > before I even consider your comments on my post. You are looking for proof
> > of someone's rank and their name before you believe them. Yet you are
> doing
> > the same thing by hiding under a false name. Please - you don't even sign
> > your posts!! So you want me to tell you, an indeterminate stranger going
> on
> > public archives how I came by my info like a complete blabbermouth....????
> > I'd have to be tortured to reveal it sorry.
> >
> > >>Please by all means keep us posted with the latest speculation in these
> > areas, but let it reamin speculation and not the recitation of fact.
> >
> >
> > OK but let me say you did get warned, but took too long looking for
> > verifiable factual evidence to your satisfaction.
> >
> > Nicky
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 03 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Well Tenebroust,
> > >
> > > I think we can safely say that American abductions could sometimes be
> the
> > > military because they sometimes pretend they are aliens by using virtual
> > > reality scenarios. But the American govt did build about 50 bases for
> the
> > > greys which was done by Rand Corp. I'll find the info. English people
> > seldom
> > > get abducted by greys according to a UK UFO mag. Abductees in US have
> gone
> > > underground to both grey and military bases..
> > >
> > > According to Branton, there are even more greys under Los Alamos than
> even
> > > under Dulce, a major nesting area going back to native American times.
> He
> > > has heard of an area near Los Alamos where the Feds bring huge shipments
> > of
> > > cattle for picking up by grey ships on an almost daily basis. It is a
> > > forrested area southwest of Los Alamos where pictograms of 'aliens'
> exist.
> > > So the aliens have been in that area long before the atom-jacks came in.
> > > Also setting off nuclear blasts burns away the membrane between this
> > > dimension and the next which would allow any interdimensional entities
> > easy
> > > access to our dimension. There is apparently more Ets seen in Nevada
> than
> > > some other places possibly due to the nuclear bombs.
> > >
> > > Other people in other countries have been abducted and people have seen
> > them
> > > rising bodily into the air and going into space ships.In South America
> > there
> > > are many stories of this. In Mexico there is a video of about 60 UFOs
> > > appearing in the sky at once when there was big crowd. Many hundreds saw
> > > them and videotaped them. Others in US have seen their partner sliding
> out
> > > of the window from their bed and rising into the air out into the sky.
> > There
> > > was story about the UN Sec, prev to this one in his car watching a woman
> > > float out of her highrise apartment in NY and into a spaceship. This
> story
> > > is well known. A couple of Govt agents got in touch with the woman and
> she
> > > told them, where she went as she remembered.
> > >
> > > Nicky
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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