I agree with you on this Samantha,
It is good to see someone using their sharp powers of analysis and knowledge
gathered on this subject.. It is true I think that the US military do have a
partnership with the specific aliens who are abducting for hybridization.
However other aliens IMO are abducting people for communication purposes or
to check the DNA etc. Perhaps giving warnings. Many reasons. Interviews of
abductees can say a lot.
http://209.145.38.129/shadiepines/paul.htm
Paul's show is here.
http://209.145.38.129/shadiepines/index.html
http://area51.simplenet.com/
A lady from England was interviewed by Paul Williams on WBAI NY, UFO Desk a
couple of days ago called Ann who was being abducted. I forgot her other
name but if you wait for the archives it will prob be about the 2/3rd of
June. Whatever the Monday date is in US. Our English members may find it
interesting. Nicky
Paul's show runs alternate Monday
mornings at 1 am EST on
WBAI New York
Next show: Mar. 27, 2000 Guest: Dennis Lee, business man and owner of United
Communities in Service to America
- Part 2
Archived Interviews
As well as a sound card and speakers, you will require
RealPlayer to hear these interviews.
Dr. Russel Targ
Paul Williams interviews Dr. Russel Targ. Dr. Targ worked with Dr. Harold
Putoff on early remote viewing experiments.
Karl Pflock
Paul Williams and Scott Carr interview UFO researcher and author, Karl
Pflock
Paul Williams Interviews Betty Hill
This is an interview with Ms. Betty Hill. Ms. Hill and her husband Barney
had an extraordinary experience in 1961. While driving home from a vacation
in Canada, they encountered an craft from another world. Hear the story of
her "Interrupted Journey".
Spend a half-hour with a living legend and experience her common sense
approach to UFOlogy. Co-hosted by Scott Carr.
Paul Williams Interviews Montauk Abductee
Here's a great story. Michelle believes that when she was a teen, she was
kidnapped by people in military uniform,
raped by an reptilian being, and then examined. All this
takes place in a bunker at Montauk NY. Was she abducted
by a military and who's? Hear her story, come to your own decision. Truly,
one of the strangest stories on the net.
Paul Williams Interviews Inspired ET Contactee
Here's an interview with a most interesting and talented woman. Ms. Maria
Cuccia housewife, mother, music teacher. A totally unassuming person, who
prior to the early nineties had nothing to do with the UFO phemenona.
Ms. Cuccia believes she's experienced contact with extra-terrestrials. Her
story is quite extraordinary, and it is still ongoing. As result of her
contact she has been
producing some very beautiful music. Experience both her music and her
story.
More Audio Interviews by Paul Williams
Abducted
A one person performance, three men, two women, and an alien inhabit the
body and mind of soldier. Listen as performance artist Micheal Belfiore,
shares bits of this astounding performance.
UFO Ballot
This is a dialog w/Larry Bryant, of MUFON, Stephen Bassett, of Paradigm
Research Group, and Larry Blecthman<sp>. We talk about the UFO ballot
initiative that was to take place in Mo.
Cosmic Test Tube
Review and interview with author Randel Fitzgerald. Randal discusses his
fasinating work about who we are and where we may from.
Dr. David Jacobs
Meet Dr. David Jacobs, author of "The Threat". We discuss this work as well
how as how he reached his conclusions.
Saber Research
Talk with alien hunter Derrel Sims of Texas, director of Saber Research.
Discussion on his research, part 1
-----Original Message-----
From: Samantha L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 20:46
Subject: Re: [CTRL] UFO EVIDENCE:
In a message dated 6/5/00 9:43:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Agreed. Their various accounts perhaps do point to contact with
> extraterrestial
> beings.
>
> But there could be other explanations as well, and we would be well
served
> to
> constantly keep that in mind. What Strieber, Lucas, et al have
experienced
> could perhaps be what manipulators behind the scenes WISH them to believe
> they
> experienced.
>
> Smoke and mirrors. Don't concentrate on the magic trick on stage, look
for
> who's pulling the strings and pushing the buttons behind the curtain...
And I am in agreement with you. It appears, especially in the case of
Strieber, that if there are/were genuine ET contacts ocurring, they are/were
being obscured by some type of military mind control experiences. Strieber,
in his own words, is quite disturbed and perplexed by recent memories that
bear this out.
What makes me believe there are genuine ET contacts occurring (with or
without black op intrusion as well) is the remarkable spiritual awakenings
so
many are having. As subjective is this is, I just don't believe that evil
intentions can awaken deep spiritual truths.
Mind you, I know that severe trauma can impel a spiritual path, but many
of
these alleged extra-dimensional/extra-terrestrials are seen by the
experiencers themselves as the guiding forces behind the awakening.
Strieber
articulates this all so beautifully. Put simply, these asshole black
operators just can't fake something at that depth because, by definition,
they don't have a grasp of that depth to begin with. If they did, they
would
be prevented by that awareness from carrying on with their tasks.
In addition to be moved by the sincerity of many of these accounts, as
well
as the internal consistency and the depth at which they are embedded in the
consciousness of the experiencers, I don't give our government scientists
credit enough to have created the crafts, the beams of light, etc., or even
the technology to pretend that they have these things, even though I am
aware
that government technology is well in advance of what the public generally
believes.
I do believe that with another 30-50 years of development, the
black-operators will have honed their "skills" to mimic such things more
accurately. They will have also almost-perfected the mind control of
children to a point where no genuine healing will ever have room to take
place. But they're not there yet, and so we have a chance...
There is a difference in depth between an mc experience and a spiritual
one
- the flavors and tones are distinct - though sometimes off only by a few
degrees. And this is where, I believe, we must add intuition and common
sense to our intellect in order to discern the subtleties involved.
It's like Emerson said, "We know the truth when we see it, just as we know
we are awake when we are awake." Admittedly, with all the mc technology
available, the dividing lines are getting murkier, but they're not
completely
obscured yet, and we had damn well better make sure we stop these fiends
before none of us can perceive the differences anymore.
Strieber's rather tortured recent account is posted as a journal entry on
his website: http://www.strieber.com/new-journal-03182000.html
It doesn't appear as if he's sorted all of this out yet.
Samantha
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