Thanks André for the discussion. I don't have a strong opinion on this. I
like #4, it is more futuristic :)

Great news, Jarek! `Apache Way` would be huge. It can make things a bit
slower, but then more people can put in thoughts, comments and try it out.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 12:07 PM Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually ... after reading those comments (and reflecting on Rich's thread
> about effort duplication
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/4t0wcz073f9owf35t4yhsh34zn47nrhm ) - I
> also
> change my preferences to #4 being preferred
>
>   1) #4
>   2) #3 (but I think we need some "white" there - because the
> black-and-white pattern is a Magpie's signature look; otherwise, it looks
> just as a random bird
>   3) #2
>
> Also, looking at Rich's concerns and Board discussions, I think there's a
> misunderstanding that we want to either a) set Foundation -level policies,
> b) bring Apache Way to others c) promote Apache Way inside ASF projects.
>
> None of this is actually in our goals: Incubator, Comdev, Tooling have
> their own "goals" there - and we should not even try to compete or
> "replace" those.
>
> We are "Way-agnostic" projects that come up with proposals that "any" OSS
> project can use. We include some ASF projects if they choose to do so, but
> we neither mandate nor expect all or most ASF projects will. It's freely up
> to the project - whether ASF or not—to "Adopt Magpie" (BTW. This is a great
> slogan we should use in promotion: "Adopt a Magpie" :).
>
> So - while mine and Justin's initial proposals included the ASF Oak, and
> Justin followed up on that, it **might** suggest that we do want to bring
> "Apache Way" to others (both in- and out- of ASF).
>
> That's why the geometric "M"-inspired logo fits way better here.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jarek
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 3:59 AM Calvin Kirs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >  I’m also a fan of #4. The magpie inside the “M” is such a nice touch.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 5:15 AM André Ahlert <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I'm a bit biased since I created proposal #4, but I must say the work
> > from
> > > others is also great.
> > >
> > > Regarding the design choices for #4, I intentionally avoided
> > Apache-related
> > > colors because I see Magpie as an agnostic project. My goal was to
> create
> > > something modern and iconographic that wouldn't feel limited, focusing
> on
> > > adoption by projects outside of the ASF as well.
> > >
> > > Ruth and Richard, thank you for the feedback! I am definitely open to
> > > working on variations and incorporating elements and colors (black and
> > > white, but not just that, the green, blue, and other colors and accents
> > > from magpie - the bird) that everyone liked from the other proposals.
> > >
> > > Also, for those who haven't seen it yet, I created a website mockup for
> > the
> > > project here: https://andreahlert.github.io/magpie-site/
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/airflow-steward/issues/244
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > André Ahlert
> > >
> > > Em ter., 9 de jun. de 2026 às 13:34, Richard Zowalla <
> > [email protected]>
> > > escreveu:
> > >
> > > > I also like #4 - looks pretty cool but might need the black/white
> > > > signature from a magpie
> > > >
> > > > Gruß
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > > Am 09.06.2026 um 15:19 schrieb Ruth Suehle <[email protected]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Love the thought that went into #4. Especially love the bird in
> the
> > > > "a." I
> > > > > wonder if andreahlert might be willing to work on a variation that
> > > > > incorporates the things people like about 2/3?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best wishes!
> > CalvinKirs
> >
>

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