On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 6:35:13 PM UTC-5, Matt Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 10:20:34AM -0600, Matthew Hardeman wrote:
> > Let's Encrypt does not quite provide certificates to everyone around the
> > world.  They do prevent issuance to and revoke prior certificates for those
> > on the United States various SDN (specially designated nationals) lists.
> > For example, units of the Iraqi government or those acting at their behest
> > may not receive Let's Encrypt certificates.
> > 
> > Obviously that is not an issue for the UAE or its people.  At least not
> > today.  But it always could be that it will be an issue someday.
> > 
> > What the people of the UAE don't have today is the ability to acquire
> > globally trusted certificates from a business in their own legal
> > jurisdiction who would be able to provide them with certificates even in
> > the face of exterior political force.
> 
> In the face of exterior political force, the people of the UAE couldn't get
> *globally trusted* certificates full-stop.  Off the top of my head, all of
> the widely-adopted web PKI trust stores are managed by US organisations. 
> One directive from the US government, and a trust anchor is *gone*.  Thus,
> having a trust anchor is not even a *sufficient* condition to produce the
> outcome you're advocating for, let alone a necessary one.

Maybe it is time for root programs to start thinking in moving their operations 
to more neutral countries, e.g. Switzerland.

> 
> if the UAE government, or its people, wishes to ensure their supply of
> "globally trusted" certificates, they need to start running their own PKI
> trust store.
> 
> - Matt

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