Sanjay, I don’t see a need to be positive or negative. The community is not a baby and does not need positive (or negative) encouragement. It needs facts and the fact is that there were no contributions to the project for the last 6 month and the project is on the way to the attic.
I am also quite tired of abstract proposals suggested in the e-mail thread. If you have a concrete proposal that will encourage participation and contribution in more positive ways, please post it here. Thank you, Vlad > On Jan 9, 2019, at 16:49, Sanjay Pujare <sanjay.puj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Vlad, > > Thanks for the clarification. So the threat of shutting down the project > (aka moving to attic) as a way to energize the community. One way to do it > and I guess works in many cases... > > We should also look into more positive ways of encouraging participation > and contribution. Hopefully it's not too late for that. > > Sanjay > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:01 PM Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Sanjay, long time, no see. >> >> This is my attempt to mobilize the community and see if we can revive some >> activity on the project. Note that the same discussion happened among PMCs >> members 2 month ago and there were promises to contribute back to the >> project with no new PRs being open. Should you follow the e-mail thread >> thoroughly, you would see that the move to the attic was questioned by the >> Apache board, so it was not me who initiated the move. I simply made >> community aware that Apex is the subject of the move if it continues the >> way it was for the last 6-8 months. With the current activity and no >> commitment to make new contributions Apex does belong to the attic. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Vlad >> >>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:27, Sanjay Pujare <sanjay.puj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Vlad >>> >>> I have been watching this debate from the sidelines and just decided to >>> jump in. >>> >>> As an Apex PMC member you said "... I am responsible for maintaining the >>> correct state of the project...". But let's face it, you don't actually >>> have to do it just like you didn't have to make contributions, make >>> proposals or do all sorts of other things for keeping the project alive >> and >>> vibrant. Without doing absolutely anything, PMC members will continue to >>> remain PMC members which applies to you as well. >>> >>> So at this stage, you may do nothing, you may start mobilizing for making >>> contributions, you may stop being a member of PMC or you may start this >>> drive to move the project to the attic. May I know why you chose the last >>> option instead of one of the others? It will be good to know your answer >>> before discussing the details of people staying away or being >> discouraged. >>> >>> Sanjay >>> >>> >>> >> >>
