On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 09:45 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
> > Daniel did find it hard. I do not know or understand why. I do know he
> > did not like working within the existing system 
> 
> I'd like to comment on my own experience.
> 
> I started at Docs in December 2002, about six months before
> Daniel did. I found working there one of the most frustrating
> experiences of my life (and I've been in the workforce since well 
> before Daniel was born).

Likewise.

> 
> I won't go into a lot of boring detail on this, but the short 
> version is that my contributions went into the IssueZilla system 
> and never emerged, despite several reviews and repeated requests 
> for them to be published.

You have said this before but I cannot find the issues. Help me out here
with numbers. There should be no reason that good stuff was not
published. Just one would help. I would like to see exactly what the
problem was. 

> 
> I certainly would say that *I* "did not like working within the
> existing system", but only because the existing system did not
> work... it was like a black hole into which stuff went and never
> emerged.

Yes. I can understand that. I remember offering to talk you through
getting an ssh tunnel working. So I do see what barriers there might be.
I do not know how to make the process easier as I have no control over
Sourcecast and can only submit issues when I find something that needs
fixing. I have tried to do that.

> 
>  From what I've read, Daniel and many other people have had 
> exactly the same experience I did.
> 

I am sure this is true.

> My response was to go off and write a book of my own which I
> self-published outside of OOo and later sold to O'Reilly.
> 

I know I bought one.

> Daniel's response was to start another project and get people 
> involved in it. I think he should be praised for his initiative, 
> not accused (by some) of dividing the community. In my opinion, 
> Daniel's response was much more community-minded than mine was.
> 

Yes he did. I supported his initial efforts. As dividing the community,
I am not the one recruiting actively in NLC or anywhere else for that
matter. So your point is I disagree with OOoAuthors policies, then yes I
do.
I have also  stated my issues with the current state of affairs.


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