Joe Smith wrote:
Frank Peters wrote:
I submitted a first suggestion for a new main page for doc.oo.o. ...
let me know what you think.

The basic idea was to emphasize the structuring into users looking
for quick help, users wanting to browse existing docs, and
contributors.

Can't be said too strongly: this is critical to making the site effective. Your draft brings good progress toward this goal.

However, I think this ultimately needs a complete separation of sites, something like mozilla.com and mozilla.org. The audiences are too different--almost anything for contributors will only distract the users.

Oh, I wasn't even aware of that difference for Mozilla. We won't be able
to have two distinct sites, though.

As long as the two are on the same site, I would separate the content as much as possible. The "front page" should be for users almost exclusively. Make a separate page for contributors.

The good thing about a common page with separate sections is
that you educate users about the possibility of contributing.
But generally, I agree that it should be separate.

I'm sure you have time to completely re-organize the site today ;-)

Perhaps separation is not practical in the near future; I do hope it is on the roadmap somewhere.

Some comments on this draft:

The icons are attractive but distracting, possibly because of their size. Only the "Help" icon helps me find what I want; e.g., there are two identical icons (the blue book) used for two entirely different sections.

I am open for suggestions re the colors and/or icons to use (if any).
The purpose is to make the sections
- searching for help
- browsing documentation
- contributing
visually distinct.

In addition, the sections for News, Favorites, and Latest Issues
(or maybe biggest pain points, greatest contributors, or whatever...)
should be distinguishable, too.

Bernhard, can you and the art project help?

Likewise, there are three sections with nearly identical appearance (red), yet distinct purposes. They should have distinct appearances. I would de-emphasize the "Favorites" and "Latest Issues"--make them uncolored or use the light blue scheme as on the left sidebar. Maybe smaller text as well.

Yup, sounds good.

Change "Browse Resources" to simply "Resources" ("browse" is redundant: it's what you do with a web browser.) Also the icon obscures part of this heading.

Hmm, "Resources" is maybe not such a great heading either: it's too generic. The list of things in there covers very different stuff (e.g. templates). What's the difference between "Resources" and "Favorites"?

Sorry, I don't have a suggestion to address this right now.

 > The unassigned issues section at the bottom should draw people's
 > attention to where help is most wanted.

Good idea. Is there a way to communicate that purpose in the section heading? I had no idea why that was there until I read your explanation here.

 > This is a draft, comments welcome

You asked for it ;-) Hope I'm not out of line here, I'm just in a hurry.

Not at all, much appreciated.

BTW: I'll be out for 2 days so I won't be able to make modifications
before Thursday.

Frank

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